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A new Pre-29, once owned by W. A. Orick
Classy guy. Putting it under the stocks like that very carefully. This gun came from a shop in Indiana, after I mentioned the name to a friend who has access to an ancestry database he came up with this guy William Albert Orick. Not sure if it's him, but it seems plausible. On the extreme off chance that anyone knows such a person can they confirm that?
My photography skills do not do this gun justice. I was expecting both a model 29 (not pre) and a gun in far rougher shape for the $1,045 asking price. The pictures of it were terrible, and it was labeled a Nickel 28-2, but I figured the stocks looked nice and I wouldn't be a war criminal from separating some nice cokes from a 28-2. In the end the guy ended up calling me while I was waiting for blood to be drawn at the doctor's office. The phlebotomist got a little impatient as I was trying to conclude a gun deal when I should have been getting blood drawn, so I was a little rushed in the whole thing.
Seems to have worked out though. I should buy more guns over the phone at the doctor's office I guess.
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Very possible A gunsmith did some work on it then put his signature on the frame handle. I have seen it before.
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How do you sleep at night....!!
Nice work buddy, you did VERY well!
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Very possible A gunsmith did some work on it then put his signature on the frame handle. I have seen it before.
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I can't imagine what it could be if they did. The action on these was so beautiful out of the box I don't know if I could even tell you if there was action work done to it.
Any ideas what I should look for? The action feels exactly like my 4" 5 screw pre-29.
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So with the Cokes on it, you got a pre-29 for $5-600? Not too shabby, even with the "engraved provenance".  He must've really liked his name, to have put it on twice. 
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Classy guy. Putting it under the stocks like that very carefully. This gun came from a shop in Indiana, after I mentioned the name to a friend who has access to an ancestry database he came up with this guy William Albert Orick. Not sure if it's him, but it seems plausible. On the extreme off chance that anyone knows such a person can they confirm that?
My photography skills do not do this gun justice. I was expecting both a model 29 (not pre) and a gun in far rougher shape for the $1,045 asking price. The pictures of it were terrible, and it was labeled a Nickel 28-2, but I figured the stocks looked nice and I wouldn't be a war criminal from separating some nice cokes from a 28-2. In the end the guy ended up calling me while I was waiting for blood to be drawn at the doctor's office. The phlebotomist got a little impatient as I was trying to conclude a gun deal when I should have been getting blood drawn, so I was a little rushed in the whole thing.
Seems to have worked out though. I should buy more guns over the phone at the doctor's office I guess.
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You stole that one! She's beautiful. Congrats!
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Wow, super nice Caleb! Way better than the link you sent me portrayed it. Shame about the name on the frame 
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So with the Cokes on it, you got a pre-29 for $5-600? Not too shabby, even with the "engraved provenance". He must've really liked his name, to have put it on twice. |
Well, if you click on that picture and zoom in, you will see the A on the right isn't exactly clear. My bet is that he did this himself and messed up the A the first time, so he put it on a second time for good measure.
I must say that I can understand why finding this under the stocks would be a big turn off for some guys, but for me it was a big bonus. I like to think that W.A. really loved this gun in much the same way I do, and I can only imagine the day he got it.
I'll never be able to buy one of these new, so the only thing I can do is live vicariously through (maybe) old soldiers who loved the gun enough to make sure someone down the road knew who's gun this really is. Because it's not mine, it's Albert's. I'm just hanging onto it for him.
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That's IT!!! I'm having one of these by the end of the year one way or the other! You are a lucky man.
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I Purchased a model 27-2 from a big time gunsmith that made prop guns for movies. He did a trigger job on the 27-2 before he sold it. Signed it with a engraving tool just like yours under the grip on the frame.
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Congratulations, you did great and sure have a beauty. The engraving is no big deal either, it is unseen. Many of us are drooling right now.
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That's a great looking .44. Since it's got someone's name on it there's no reason not to shoot it! 
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Wow, for that price you got a revolver that is a lot nicer than almost anything you can buy new for twice a much.
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Six gun,
Glad you got your 44 after that mess I caused you a few days back. Very very nice!
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Six gun,
Glad you got your 44 after that mess I caused you a few days back. Very very nice!
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Not at all Bob, I'm very pleased. I plan to treasure thus gun for some time to come.
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Sweet - so is it a pre 29 ? And how much for the Cokes !
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This never happens to me!!!
Beautiful find, very well done. : )
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Wonder if it belonged to this man ...
From a WWII press release:
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Wouldn't be at all surprised if it's the same man. Not a common name or interest, in combination.
How do you find things like that letter?!
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The dude was hard core military. I have no doubt this is him.
20+ yrs genealogy research. If anyone has a name from a firearm they want researched I'll give it a go. email swede1894(at)gmail.com (research gratis for gun people)
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I'd buy that all day long with names under the grips.
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The dude was hard core military. I have no doubt this is him.
20+ yrs genealogy research. If anyone has a name from a firearm they want researched I'll give it a go. email swede1894(at)gmail.com (research gratis for gun people)
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This is way too cool. Thank you so much for finding this, I'm clearly going to have to get better at actually doing such research if I keep buying such guns.
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That's IT!!! I'm having one of these by the end of the year one way or the other! You are a lucky man.
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Thanks to 2 members of this forum, I got one too!!!
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Digging up a bit of an old thread here with an...update? I grabbed a copy of an old magazine from the war. This W.A. Orick guy was pretty cool as it turns out, featured as he was in this article:
If you would like to read it, not by blowing up the pictures I took of the magazine, you can find it in text here: A War to be Won
The site which led me to this particular article.
It's a heck of a lot of fun to start to put together the ephemera that belongs with a gun, with that gun. I should probably poke around and see if I can't get a picture of Orick himself.
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Great gun, great price, and some great research into the possible original owner!!!
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This is great! I bought a nice leather attache case in a second hand store and managed to learn a bit about the previous owner (deceased by then). Your gun and the research behind the owner, is 1,000 times more cool!
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$1045 for a Beautiful Pre-29 with Cokes...You should be ashamed of yourself!
To ease your pain and guilt, I‘ll give you you’re money back, I might even be persuaded to pay shipping...
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$1045 for a Beautiful Pre-29 with Cokes...You should be ashamed of yourself!
To ease your pain and guilt, I‘ll give you you’re money back, I might even be persuaded to pay shipping...
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Haha, keep in mind this was 5 years ago now
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What a fantastic find and story. Congratulations!
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Wowie Zowie! It's like you can't make this kinda o stuff up and be any better.
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My photography skills do not do this gun justice. I was expecting both a model 29 (not pre) and a gun in far rougher shape for the $1,045 asking price. The pictures of it were terrible, and it was labeled a Nickel 28-2, but I figured the stocks looked nice and I wouldn't be a war criminal from separating some nice cokes from a 28-2.
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Looks like you got a fantastic gun for an awesome price to me. I can understand the dealer not knowing a pre-model 29 from a model 29 or 28-2, but where did Nickel come from? The pictures might look like Nickel, but didn't the dealer look at it in person?
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Looks like you got a fantastic gun for an awesome price to me. I can understand the dealer not knowing a pre-model 29 from a model 29 or 28-2, but where did Nickel come from? The pictures might look like Nickel, but didn't the dealer look at it in person?
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The dealer had taken pictures of a few guns, and posted the auction for a nickel 28-2, but accidentally used the pictures for this pre-model 29.
When I saw the auction I immediately recognized what it was, called the dealer, and arranged for a direct sale of this gun before he put it on gunbroker, and then he fixed the photos on the auction to the correct ones of the 28-2.
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