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07-31-2015, 07:56 AM
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PLEASE HELP IDENTIFY
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07-31-2015, 08:14 AM
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Looks like a couple of WW2 'Victory" models that have been reworked. Likely in the Fifties or Sixties when they were cheap surplus. I'd be curious to see if they had British proofs on them anywhere. I remember a lot of those as a kid had a .38 special chamber reamer run into them to inelegantly convert them from .38-200
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07-31-2015, 08:36 AM
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Welcome! Agree with the above - the 2" probably lost any barrel stampings when it was shortened (likely from 5"), but the right barrel of the 4" may have either .38 S & W CTG (the standard British service round) or .38 S & W Special CTG (US service) there. Both have replacement front sights, stocks and lanyard rings removed, and appear refinished.
If a .38 Special seats flush in the cylinder (especially if the barrel is not stamped .38 Special), it has likely been modified as noted above. The case is of smaller diameter than the .38 S & W and will swell or bulge with firing; it may even crack. Hope this is helpful.
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07-31-2015, 08:51 AM
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The finish on both are in bad shape as my Dad stored it in a safe for a long time and forgot about it. The 4" barrel has a parker hale marked on the side of the front sight and what looks like a crown on the left side of the frame above the yoke, that must be the British marks old tanker mentioned. I'll take better pics soon. I remember when I was about 10 years old both gun's finish were nice. Thanks for the input old tanker. Sorry for the bad pics i took them with my cell phone.
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07-31-2015, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by murphydog
Welcome! Agree with the above - the 2" probably lost any barrel stampings when it was shortened (likely from 5"), but the right barrel of the 4" may have either .38 S & W CTG (the standard British service round) or .38 S & W Special CTG (US service) there. Both have replacement front sights, stocks and lanyard rings removed, and appear refinished.
If a .38 Special seats flush in the cylinder (especially if the barrel is not stamped .38 Special), it has likely been modified as noted above. The case is of smaller diameter than the .38 S & W and will swell or bulge with firing; it may even crack. Hope this is helpful.
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I'll check for barrel markings on both guns and take more pics. Ive tried shooting the 4" without any splitting or bulging shells though.
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07-31-2015, 09:17 AM
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Aside from being family heirlooms, what you have are not collectible because of the past modifications and aftermarket refinishing and grips. Each might bring $200 on a good day. They are now tackle box or truck guns. Enjoy them as shooters and pass them down.
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07-31-2015, 08:50 PM
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I checked both guns and murphy dog was right. the 2" barrel has no markings of caliber and cartridge obviously was chopped off. Next to check is the bullet seating. Thanks for the evaluation Chris, my Dad's been wondering about the value of his revolvers. BTW my Dad mentioned that he exchanged the grips on the guns but I dont think they are originals on both models. Thank you guys for your help
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08-01-2015, 12:51 AM
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I checked bullet seating on the cylinder of both guns. I'll post pics so you guys can give your opinions. Thanks
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08-01-2015, 01:06 AM
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Are these British markings on frame , barrel and cylinder?
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08-04-2015, 11:09 AM
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08-04-2015, 11:46 AM
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YES. BNP proof stamp = Birmingham Nitro Proof
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08-04-2015, 04:55 PM
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Parker-Hale converted many .38/200 revolvers along these lines. They turn up fairly often.
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