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08-26-2015, 10:00 PM
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How high should I go on this nickel 1905 4th change?
Going to an auction tomorrow and saw that this gun was listed. All the ad listing says is that it is a Model 1905-4th. I don't know the serial numbers, so I only have these two pics to go by until I drive an hour tomorrow to look in person.
Any guesses as to what it might be worth. I realize that there is no way to know about the action, rifling, cylinder,etc,etc.
Any ballpark guesses?
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08-26-2015, 10:06 PM
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If the stocks are original to the gun, it is from the 1930 decade - expect a serial number in the early 600,000 to 800,000 range. The nickel finish looks original, hard to tell if it can be restored to shiny new.
If mechanically sound, perhaps $300-350? Try not to get into a bidding war .
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08-26-2015, 10:13 PM
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Assuming the action is in time, no push off, normal wear but without rust or pitting in the cylinders or bore, $300 to $350 seems about right. Looks like a 5" barrel. It does not look refinished from the photos. Check the back of the cylinder for an N. A lot of refinish jobs nickeled the hammer and trigger, but this one looks original.
About a million were made by WWII. About a million in WWII, and another couple of million since. In the late 50's, this gun became the Model 10.
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08-26-2015, 10:46 PM
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Definitely not a high dollar gun. $300, including buyer's premium, sales taxes, etc. would be my top investment, if it is tight mechanically and not refinished. These are very common guns and can often be bought at gun shows from private sellers for around $250, or so, out the door. Ed.
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check under the grips for rust/pitting....if the nickel finish is original there may be a "N" on the barrel flat by the serial number or on the side of the butt frame....
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There's also this one, but all the sale bill says about it is "Smith and Wesson Model of 1905"
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Not a Model 1905 with the round butt. From introduction up until before WWII, the round butt 38 HEs were called Model 1902 and the square butt guns were Model 1905. By the time that gun was manufactured, the company called both round and square butt guns Military & Police revolvers. That M&P would have left the factory between 1920 to 1922. Nice walnut stocks and from the picture maybe nice condition blue. If so, $300 should buy it, if refinished, maybe under $250.
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Depending on the kind of auction, all gun/sporting goods or a household auction may make a difference. At household type auctions I see prices going half again higher than at gun auctions. I relate that to people having known the previous owners and want that old 6 shooter billy-bob had that would shoot the eye out of a knat at 50 paces.
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. . . At household type auctions I see prices going half again higher than at gun auctions . . .
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I also find that bidders who have no knowledge of what they are bidding on will almost always pay too much. I see estate auctions where lots of items will sell for way over value. If you are not well educated on what you are buying, it is easy to be swept up in the bidding process.
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Well, did you buy it and if so, where are the pictures?????
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