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S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 All 5-Screw & Vintage 4-Screw SWING-OUT Cylinder REVOLVERS, and the 35 Autos and 32 Autos


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What is a fair retail for this gun?

I see that it has import marks. I believe serial range is 88X,XXX. Based on things I read in this forum, it seems that this would be after they started using the phosphate, but before they started bead blasting. Is that correct? Seller told me it was a "pre-victory." Is the terminology correct? Not familiar with these at all...
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This is indeed a pre-Victory, but it looks heavily refinished to me, with much more modern stocks. The hammer, trigger and ejector rod have been polished to in-the-white status. It's hard to say whether the phosphate finish is original from the photos, but at least to me the Smith & Wesson stamping on the barrel looks somewhat washed/buffed out. So does the S&W crest on the right side plate.

So it would have no collector value. It's hard to put a price on it since I simply wouldn't be interested, but it should definitely be south of $300 somewhere.

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If the SN is as you state, 88xxxx, that would date its shipment to late 1941, quite a while prior to the factory's use of a phosphate finish. The Australian military re-finished many of their Victories and pre-Victories in the 1950s. This may be one of them, and if so would probably have a "FTR" (Factory Thorough Repair) stamp on it, plus a 2-digit date. The grips are definitely not original. It might be a good shooter, but that's about all. No serious collectors would be interested, so it's worth whatever it would bring as a shooter. I'd guess $250-$350, depending on the buyer's interest and knowledge of what he is really buying. If you are considering its purchase, really lowball an offer and walk away if it's not accepted.

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If you are buying it as a shooter, be advised that the barrel markings indicate that it fires .38 S&W, which can be hard to find. (This is not the same as .38 S&W Special).

It may have been converted to fire .38 Special, but that is not always problem-free.
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Thank you all for the welcome advice. The seller wanted $500 OBO so I didnt even bother making an offer. I appreciate the guidance!
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A wise decision. Someone else deserves it.
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