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10-02-2015, 10:27 AM
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38 s&w revolver
I have what appears to be a hand ejector revolver, no model number on yolk s/n V 361XXX on butt, 38 S & W SPECIAL CTG, fixed site. I would like to know model, year made and type of CTG to use.
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10-02-2015, 11:05 AM
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It is a "Victory" model from the WW2 era. Experts will be along shortly to narrow it down further. The grips are replacements.
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10-02-2015, 11:15 AM
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38 S & W SPECIAL CTG, fixed site. I would like to know model, year made and type of CTG to use.
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The barrel engraving tells you the ammunition to use: 38 S & W SPECIAL CTG.
Any .38 Special ammo meeting SAAMI specs is suitable, but most of the fixed sight guns shoot to point of aim with standard speed 158gr.
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10-02-2015, 11:28 AM
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Any information on this would be appreciated
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10-02-2015, 11:54 AM
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Victory models have an interesting history, too much for me to write here. Is there any writing on the top strap, which is the metal part of the frame over the cylinder? Is there a hole about 1/4" wide on the bottom of the grip where the serial number is? That would be where a lanyard ring was. The grips are replacements. The originals would have been smooth walnut grips. Grips and lanyard rings can be found on line and also here in the accessories section if you post a want to buy. Basically a Victory is a 1905 4th change M&P that has been Parkerized for use by the military. The first President Bush was carrying one in a shoulder holster when his torpedo plane was shot down by the Japanese while he was fighting in the South Pacific in WWII. He gave it to a submarine crewmember when they rescued him. It recently resurfaced and I think it's in the Smithsonian Museum. These are very interesting revolvers and valued by Smith collectors and Military collectors.
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38 S & W SPECIAL
I am not home at the moment but I have these pics, I will look when I get home, thank you for the information.
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10-02-2015, 12:44 PM
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I can't see if anything is on the top strap in this pic. It would probably be U.S. Property, US Navy, or nothing at all. These guns were used by people other than the military and not all are marked. The lanyard ring hole has been filled. This was a common practice after WWII when a lot of these guns hit the civilian market and some folks didn't want a lanyard ring. If this gun were mine I would find someone competent to drill out the filled whole and replace the lanyard ring. Then I would look for a set of smooth grips. You should be able to find a lot more info on line. This same gun was also made in .38 S&W caliber (a shorter 38 than a special) for the British Commonwealth. Most of those had 5" barrels.
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38 S & W SPECIAL
It says US PROPERTY of GHD
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10-02-2015, 01:06 PM
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38 S & W SPECIAL
Here's a pic
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10-02-2015, 01:06 PM
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Your Victory Model was made in 1943. The stocks come from the 1946-1953 period, so while they are not original to the gun, they came along shortly after the war.
GHD are the initials of Guy H. Drewry, the ordnance inspector who was head of the Springfield District for much of the war.
The U.S. Property stamp indicates the gun was intended for American military use, very likely in Naval service, although other branches used them as well, including the Coast Guard.
Added: the little flaming bomb in front of the property stamp is an ordnance mark, indicating acceptance into the military arsenal system.
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I really appreciate the information, thanks for taking the time and I will look for some smooth stocks and a D ring.
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