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I am new to this site and s&W revolvers. I have the opportunity to buy a 4 screw, I think, pre 29. The serial number is marked s 172521.I will try and post a couple of pictures if I can figure it out. Also can someone give me a wag to the value? Thanks
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I am new to this site and s&W revolvers. I have the opportunity to buy a 4 screw, I think, pre 29. The serial number is marked s 172521.I will try and post a couple of pictures if I can figure it out. Also can someone give me a wag to the value? Thanks
First off, Welcome. I'm not an expert on Pre-29's, but, to help with pricing we need, Finish, condition, barrel length and is it in it's case and are all the tools present.
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I will try to find out all of the info. I have some pictures on my phone, but I am not sure how to post them here. The barrel length is 61/2 , with smooth grips and a scope has been mounted.any help as to posting the pictures from my phone would be great.
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S172521 is probably early 1957, so it would have a four screw frame and no model number.
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I am no expert here, but I do believe the Pre-29 models were five screw. I own one in 4" blue and it has an S serial number.
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If someone could pm me with their number, I could message them the pictures and maybe they could post them
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"a scope has been mounted"

Also very important - Is the rear sight present and did the scope mount require drilling the topstrap? If the latter, MAJOR drop in value from collector to shooter.

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Yes the rear sights have been removed and I think it had to be drilled to mount scope. If that is the case and it is just a shooter any idea of the value. The person is asking about 2k.
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If someone could pm me with their number, I could message them the pictures and maybe they could post them
You can easily post them yourself.

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Yes the rear sights have been removed and I think it had to be drilled to mount scope. If that is the case and it is just a shooter any idea of the value. The person is asking about 2k.

It's just a shooter now,I'd figure far less than 1k
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I am no expert here, but I do believe the Pre-29 models were five screw.
Many of the Pre 29 were 4 screw.
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Way, way less than $2K if its originality has been compromised with a scope mount. In fact, maybe much less than $1K. The seller is dreaming. or hoping for a sucker. Many would not touch it. It's worth whatever someone is willing to pay for a shooter.
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Finding a proper fitting rear sight may be difficult. Does it have a screw on the top of the sideplate?
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I tried to upload the pics- no success. I want to thank everyone for me possibly making a big mistake in buying this weapon.
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$1k is probably the right price if the scope is high quality, like a Leupold, and the gun is in immaculate condition aside from the scope mounting. I wouldn't pay that without the original sight and stocks included in the deal.
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You said "a scope had been mounted" which is in the past tense. Is there a scope on it now?
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Yes the scope is on the gun - I think you are right about the type of scope:
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Sorry about not being able to post pics - I a Vietnam vet - I tried 4 times - no more guys if you know what I mean
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Cap144, sent you a PM about photo's.
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I have the last 5 screw 44Mag. at Sn. 176069. Is there a screw in front of the trigger guard? Lots of 44 Mags back in the 70s had scopes installed.
I know, I did them and put the rear sight in a box. Sights and screws long gone. Sorry collectors.
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Thank you did you get the pic with the serial number?
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Was working on it...
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Thanks Stu - maybe someone could now put a value on this weapon. Much appreciated cap
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Also, you do not have the correct grips/stocks --referred to as "Cokes"-- which are worth about $400 in themselves. IMHO, this is an $800 to $100 gun depending on the value of the scope.
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unfortunate. a 2k gun reduced to maybe 700.
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If it had the original Coke target stocks, that would redeem its value considerably. And that is not a premium-quality scope. Value is what someone would pay for it as a shooter, not as a collectible. The seller should list it on GunBroker. Best to let someone else buy it. If you want a .44 shooter, you can get a later original-condition M29 for a lot less than $2K with no baggage.

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Is that even a pistol scope?
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Scope appears to be a late 60's bushnell, about 1.5 power.
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$600 gun to me...NO more.

Sad deal, to ruin a great old gun like that with a scope.
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From the time that scope was made and installed the pre-29 was just another revolver and nothing special. Don't bring todays value judgements into the past. That's called revisionist history and it doesn't work.
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You are right stu1ritter,. Back in the 1970's a scoped handgun was all the rage and worked very well for hunting.
I've got an early 29-2 that I had fitted with a scope back then. The drilled mounts were all we had offered.
The rear sight is going to be a bit expensive if you want to put it back to original, and the holes will always be there so I'd go about $700 for the gun. The scope itself has very little value in todays market. Good luck.
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From the time that scope was made and installed the pre-29 was just another revolver and nothing special. Don't bring todays value judgements into the past. That's called revisionist history and it doesn't work.
Amen to that!

Besides, how do we know if that .44 Mag hasn't accounted for more deer than all our guns put together?
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