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S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 All 5-Screw & Vintage 4-Screw SWING-OUT Cylinder REVOLVERS, and the 35 Autos and 32 Autos


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Old 12-26-2015, 04:14 PM
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I belong to a couple of Colorado Facebook gun sale pages. The usual fare is Springfield XDs, Glocks, and home built ARs. The day before Christmas I see a guy's ad wanting to trade a Smith .38 for something else. He actually posted it before I joined the page, so I didn't see it until somebody commented and it popped back to the top.

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There were a string of comments, all identifying it as a Model 10 and giving lowball offers and crappy trades. He said he wanted a .357, so I sent him some pictures of a Ruger Security Six and a Ruger Blackhawk .357/9mm convertible. He liked the Blackhawk and we agreed to meet at Cabelas for the exchange today. Here in CO, everything goes through an FFL.

He liked my Blackhawk and the deal was done. I told him his gun wasn't a Model 10, and he looked wary like it would queer the deal. I told him his gun was worth more than mine, but he didn't care. He wanted that Blackhawk so he could teach his kids to shoot with the 9mm cylinder and move up to .357s later.

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Pardon the Jay Scott black pearlies. The hunt begins for N frame magnas.



I suspect a reblue, given the color of the hammer and trigger. If so, it was done well and not buffed. The markings are clear.



There was a thread I ran across a while ago questioning the whole purpose of an N-frame .38 Special. I won't rehash the arguments, but I was kind of on the it-doesn't-make-sense side. No more. There is more to a gun than its weight to power ratio. This thing feels like it would shoot a sassy bandit on its own, reload itself, shrug its blue steel shoulders and say - send more.

Serial number is S148xxx, which puts it in 1955 or 56. The seller said he didn't pay much for it, having gotten it from a relative in Kentucky who needed money for car repairs.

So, we're both happy. I can't wait to get to the range.
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Old 12-26-2015, 04:24 PM
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Nice 38-44. It does look to have been re-blued to me as well.
Still looks great and I'd have traded the Black hawk for it. Congrats on the trade.
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Old 12-26-2015, 05:20 PM
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Nice gun. I have two 4" HDs that are late 55 or early 56. One is #
S148XXX that I bought from a Kentucky dealer that used to come to IN
gun shows back around 20 yrs ago. The other is a recent buy from GB.
I love the 4" 38/44s and to me it's not about the ratio of weight to
power but it's the gun itself. Since I have several .357s I see no
reason to try to validate the heavy 38/44 by loading very hot 38s. I
will load the 38spl to a +P level that I can shoot in my newer K frames
or the N frames and if I want hotter ammo I will use a .357. The HD
is a great revolver from a bygone era and not likely to ever be made
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Old 12-26-2015, 05:21 PM
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I'd say you did extremely well!
I like the 38/44s and for a shooter the reblue wouldn't bother me at all.
Now get yourself a can of 2400 and make some proper loads for that puppy.
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Great shooter!

I have bought several S&W's on Facebook, even a k32. It's been a great resource for smiths.
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Does he have any other "Model 10s"?
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No, but you better believe I asked.
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I too have wondered about the need for an N-Frame .38 Special but I have generally kept my doubts to myself, not wanting to rain on someone else's parade.

That said, I sure would look for a suitable .38/44 load to shoot in such a revolver.

Related Question:
Does anyone know of a source for .357 Magnum cases that accept Large Pistol primers?
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NICE score!!!

I picked up a 1936 vintage HD w/ real pearl stocks in a pawn shop that was mislabeled as a Model 10 once. It's a great feeling.....enjoy your find!!

PM me if you are interested in the correct stocks...or a least something close.

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The 38/44 is on my dream gun list. i understand there is no need for a 38 N frame but like was said before it is a gun of a bygone era and that alone makes it worth while to me. With that being said, go get a pound of 2400 and push that 38 to 1200 fps.
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I found some N frame magnas of dubious parentage. No diamonds, but they beat the black faux pearlies.



That's a BK adapter.



I took it to an indoor range the Monday after Christmas, which was interesting. The guy next to me was shooting a new Glock 9mm at four feet. I'm not kidding, the target was four feet from the muzzle. I ran my target down to the 25 yard line and let fly with the old HD. I was shooting American Eagle 158 grain roundnose, but you'd think I was shooting black powder ammo. I've never seen a smokier smokeless factory load. They landed square in the black with a six o'clock hold, though.

The more I handle and shoot this old boy, the more I get it.
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This one's from '55 and shoots just like you describe. Glad you found one, .. and know you'll enjoy it.

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My concern is that when the gun was reblued, the surface hardening was removed with the case color. Will the parts wear faster than when they were case hardened?

Otherwise, a nice gun, especially now that Buffalo Bore has a heavy .38 Special load.

What can you tell us about the holster?

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What can you tell us about the holster?
Its a Gould & Goodrich for a 4" K frame. The guy must have thought - Damn this cheap holster, it won't even snap.
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sigp220.45, isn't it fun to find a treasure? You did good. All the best, Joe.
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I belong to several similar FB groups/pages. I have bought some ammo, some accessories, and a pre Model 10 at what I thought was fair to me and the seller, who also really didn't know what he had but knew what he wanted.

More often than not, these pages have $300 Hi Points, $500 Glocks, and .22 LR at about ten cents a round or higher, and a lot of the sale threads are fraught with name calling and threats. After a spate of no shows for agreed upon transactions, the admins of the half dozen more popular pages, who all know each other (we kinda all know each other down here), banded together to ban those who no show. Not sure if it's helped any.
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Naval jelly will take the blue off the hammer and trigger if you want. Here's one that was refinished before I got it. I just put some Ken Driskill's on it. It dates from 1956.





BTW, Bill (1aspenhill) will want your SN for his .38/44 database. He hangs here but you can also find him here:
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No but he did say that he had a Regular Magnum or at least it said something like that in the yoke with a number following that.

He wanted to trade it for an old .22 rifle that I had so we did the trade.
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