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Thought I'd show off my most recent acquisition. It's a HFT, serial 3644XX, RP stocks numbered to the gun, and except for a small ding at the bottom of a grip panel, like new. I am very happy to have found it!




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Old 04-18-2016, 06:15 PM
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Be careful....they sort of grow on you.

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Nice gun. I am always amused by the term "Heavy" when referring to this gun. I know it's in S&W description, but. I have a couple or two and am amazed that anyone can hold it steady for target shooting.

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When the only other .22 was an "M" Frame Lady Smith at the time it more easily seemed to be a "Heavy Frame".
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Very handsome gun. Good find. Enjoy and best.
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Nice gun. I am always amused by the term "Heavy" when referring to this gun. I know it's in S&W description, but. I have a couple or two and am amazed that anyone can hold it steady for target shooting.

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True. When the K22 Outdoorsman was introduced in 1930, S&W changed the name to .22/32 Target.
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Old 04-18-2016, 07:32 PM
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BlackAgnes,

That's a screamer! Nice find.

That's a post 1920 and pre 1923 vintage w/o the single-line ‘MADE IN U.S.A.’ rollmark.
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That's a real sweetheart.
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I do not list a really close SN, but from SNs I do have, I'd guess it probably shipped in 1923-24. But it's slightly strange that it does not have the MADE IN USA frame stamping on the left side, which would place it as being manufactured in 1922 or earlier. It's possible that these may not have received that stamping until later than some other models - I don't know. Or maybe it just spent a long time in factory inventory. Grips are period-correct, may have a penciled matching SN inside.

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I do not list a really close SN, but from SNs I do have, I'd guess it probably shipped in 1923-24. But it's slightly strange that it does not have the MADE IN USA frame stamping on the left side, which would place it as being manufactured in 1922 or earlier. It's possible that these may not have received that stamping until later than some other models - I don't know. Or maybe it just spent a long time in factory inventory. Grips are period-correct, may have a penciled matching SN inside.
Not strange, I think you're right on. Order changes usually took ~6 months give or take, to show up on the guns because of frames already in process. So with the order issued May '22, late '22 but more likely early '23 production then awhile in inventory before shipping later in '23 sounds about right.
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Thank you for the info on my gun!
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I have four close numbers in my database but they shipped as much as a year apart. 364316 10/21, 364388 12/21, 364411 10/22 and 364464 10/21.

So unless 364411 was a typo and I will recheck that with Roy, you are looking at late 1921 to late 1922.

I am also seeing a mixture of Paine front sights with U notch rears and Patridge front sights with square notch rears during this time period.

Interestingly, the order back to the square two screw extension stocks and Patridge front sights came about a year later in August of 1923.

As someone stated the Made in USA roll stamp occurs in 1922 however, I don't see any until 1923.

If you supply the serial number or PM it to me, I will add this gun to the database.
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Interestingly, the order back to the square two screw extension stocks and Patridge front sights came about a year later in August of 1923.
Quite interesting to me, since I had not ran across that tidbit before. My notes state that the convex RP stocks were not adopted until 1923?? Was it a short run or did they start earlier?

I have a 22/32 HFT with serial number 360573, that was shipped in February, 1923, so there must have been a large inventory at the factory in order for the serial number to be so mixed up with regards to ship dates.
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Nice gun. I am always amused by the term "Heavy" when referring to this gun. I know it's in S&W description, but. I have a couple or two and am amazed that anyone can hold it steady for target shooting.

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Quite interesting to me, since I had not ran across that tidbit before. My notes state that the convex RP stocks were not adopted until 1923?? Was it a short run or did they start earlier?

I have a 22/32 HFT with serial number 360573, that was shipped in February, 1923, so there must have been a large inventory at the factory in order for the serial number to be so mixed up with regards to ship dates.
My database shows two screw extension target stocks with gold medallions up until around mid 1919 and then they switch to the regulation police style with gold medallions.

This continues until about the beginning of 1921 when they appear without medallions. This continues until 1924/5 when the extension non medallion stocks begin to appear.

Again, this is only based on observations from guns that I have recorded in the database. I do not have every gun ever shipped listed but it does establish rough time trends.

The order by Harold Wesson to switch to the Patridge front sight and back to the two screw extension stocks was issued in August of 1923.

Remember that guns already produced could have been in inventory for years before being shipped. We are talking about the period between post world war one and the market crash in 1929. Not sure how many .22/32's were being sold during this time frame but it may have taken a while for inventory to be used up and new guns with changes made to be shipped.
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I have one listed around SN 340xxx which reportedly shipped in early 1924. No way to tell for sure without a letter.
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I have one listed around SN 340xxx which reportedly shipped in early 1924. No way to tell for sure without a letter.
DWalt, are you certain of that serial number? I have a gap in my database with 297,356 shipping in 11/1919 jumping to 341,632 shipping in 2/1921. I have no .22/32's in the 340,XXX serial number range listed.

As for 1924, guns from that year in my database are in the 380,XXX and 390,XXX range.

If you pull out the gun, I would love to add its features to the database.
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Mine was shipped September of 1922.
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FYI, I have one which shipped Sept. 26, s/n 441727, non-medallion 2 screw targets which number.
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