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Most anything acidic will damage or remove bluing. As bluing is essentially a form of rust, anything which attacks rust (Iron Oxide) will damage it. Naval Jelly certainly will, and NJ is a sort of thickened Phosphoric Acid. I have used weak hydrochloric acid to remove bluing. Blood will definitely damage bluing. A long time ago I had a cop friend who used his revolver to bludgeon a BGs head, and got blood all over it. He had to send it back to S&W for a re-blue job. I also saw a Colt OP revolver used in a suicide that had lots of speckled bluing damage from the blood. I could have bought it very cheaply from the owner, but it creeped me out, and I passed.
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Most anything acidic will damage or remove bluing. As bluing is essentially a form of rust, anything which attacks rust (Iron Oxide) will damage it. Naval Jelly certainly will, and NJ is a sort of thickened Phosphoric Acid. I have used weak hydrochloric acid to remove bluing. Blood will definitely damage bluing. A long time ago I had a cop friend who used his revolver to bludgeon a BGs head, and got blood all over it. He had to send it back to S&W for a re-blue job. I also saw a Colt OP revolver used in a suicide that had lots of speckled bluing damage from the blood. I could have bought it very cheaply from the owner, but it creeped me out, and I passed.
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".....from the owner...."
Wow...... always knew you had connections ..........but that's one big step beyond!!!!
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06-20-2016, 04:21 PM
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He was a later owner, and a next-door neighbor, not the decedent. One of his relatives used it to escape the human condition. I have run across several known suicide guns, have always passed them by.
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A friend of mine had a new blue M29 in 1978. His girlfriend got Coca-Cola on it. Took the blue right off.
I bought a M27 that was used in a suicide. Converted it to .44 Special. It's never bothered me a bit.
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Bruce,
you made an excellent decision. That is a splendid buy, and I always like to get a combination of an unusual gun with not feeling bad about shooting it. Yours is perfect for that. You can shoot it without worrying about its pristine finish, and do what it was intended to do: shoot. Of course if it were mine, I would take into account its vintage, and craft some handloads that mimic what it was designed to shoot.
That's why I haven't shot my 1877 Colt "Lighting" yet, even though I have a couple of boxes of empty .38 colt cartrige cases... I just haven't taken the time to work up a period load for it yet. One of these days, though.
Congratulations on a cool gun at a decent price!!!
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Bruce,
you made an excellent decision. That is a splendid buy, and I always like to get a combination of an unusual gun with not feeling bad about shooting it. Yours is perfect for that. You can shoot it without worrying about its pristine finish, and do what it was intended to do: shoot. Of course if it were mine, I would take into account its vintage, and craft some handloads that mimic what it was designed to shoot.
That's why I haven't shot my 1877 Colt "Lighting" yet, even though I have a couple of boxes of empty .38 colt cartrige cases... I just haven't taken the time to work up a period load for it yet. One of these days, though.
Congratulations on a cool gun at a decent price!!!
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Thanks Les,
It does suit my fancy, I must say. My first Target is so nice that I seldom shoot it, but the others I shoot as often as I can. I guess I enjoy the ones that I get to shoot more than the pristine example.
I don't have a Lightening, but I do have a Thunderer storekeeper that I shoot on occasion. It has about as much blue as this one, but no pits and is mechanicaly excellent.
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Bruce:
Glad to hear from someone who has actually shot one. I have read that they are delicate, an using one risks breaking the "delicate" mechanism. That's something else that has stopped me. Knowing that you have shot yours gives me a desire to get it out of the safe, and maybe finally work up a load for it. I'll let you know how I make out.
It was just sort of an impulse buy, guy brought it in to the barber shop and needed some money, and I had some money, and after having the slick little six shooter in my hand, and looking at the condition, and never having seen one in the flesh before, well, it followed me home.
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".....from the owner...."
Wow...... always knew you had connections ..........but that's one big step beyond!!!!
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Ha!!! I think he meant the person who inherited it. That's pretty good.
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Finally broke down and got a letter on this little jewel.
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Finally broke down and got a letter on this little jewel.
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Maybe it shipped to West Virginia
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You guys laugh, but my GF's Dentist is named Hatfield, and he is "Devil Anse"'s great grandson. He has all of the family history in the waiting room. He also has Devil Anse's 44-40 Model 92 lever action rifle and some other family guns.
He has a sign in his office window, prominently displayed, saying: "Firearms Welcome Here"!!
Really a nice guy.
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After all the striking targets that have shown up in the last couple of days, I'm almost embarrassed to show the additional photos of my little target. But I have it in hand and I love it.
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Nothing to be ashamed of there. That little revolver reminds me of the saying, "good girls go to heaven, bad girls go anywhere." I like that homely little "been around".
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Nothing to be ashamed of there. That little revolver reminds me of the saying, "good girls go to heaven, bad girls go anywhere." I like that homely little "been around".
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Thank you. We have bonded 😊
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You guys laugh, but my GF's Dentist is named Hatfield, and he is "Devil Anse"'s great grandson. He has all of the family history in the waiting room. He also has Devil Anse's 44-40 Model 92 lever action rifle and some other family guns.
He has a sign in his office window, prominently displayed, saying: "Firearms Welcome Here"!!
Really a nice guy.
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I shoot with the North-South Skirmish Association and my unit has several members named Hatfield that live in the Grundy, Virginia area. Yes, they are kin to "Devil Anse" and all are great guys. And extremely good shots as well. 
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Mint, Rare and Cheap. Pick two.
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Well, I scoffed at the idea of it belonging to one of the infamous Hatfield clan. Roy tells me that previous research shows that it did indeed go to a member of that clan. Someone on the other side was kind enough to post an obit for an Elias M. Hatfield, son of Devil Anse who fits the time frame. He was killed in 1911 in a feud over bootlegging territory.
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Bruce, glad it has nice provenance for it now. I had a feeling
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Thanks, Rich. I was holding out for Teddy Roosevelt 
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