I bought the Regulation Police 38 S&W (Pre-33) about 2 weeks ago. I'm guessing it was made @1954 or so (#75xxx). It has the longer grip and J frame grips fit it just fine.


Received the leather today. Perfect for lugging around the 'yard'.

Very Nice!! Those LSWC's make it much more effective than LRN factory loads.

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Love it. Is that buffalo bore ammo? If so what is POI vs POA? Also holster maker please.

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Really like the pistol. Where'd the leather come from? I like the style for field carry. Oh and thanks for sharing.

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I have one in my database 759xx that shipped Nov 1955, if that helps.

Beautiful!

Yeah a great Kit Gun! "Model of 1953 .38 Regulation Police", on the New I frame, or pre model 33. That's an early one, must be a 4 screw side plate including one screw under the right grip.

I chose the .32 4" J frame Model 30-1, for my Kit Gun and reamed it to 32 H&R Mag, Also made it a target model:

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I hate it when people post pics of knives, holsters, etc. and don't ID every item. Maybe it's to make us ask, so they know the thread is being read?

Your gun is better than a .22 for the role usually envisioned for the Kit Gun. I sold my M-34 mainly because it had SEVERE extraction problems. Then, I saw velocity results from one in an article by Don Zutz, whom I knew slightly and considered to be one of the more informed gun writers within his sphere of interests. That did not encourage me to rely on ANY .22 revolver for any but the smallest animals.

My idea of a kit gun is the .38 Special M-60-4. I also have a Ruger SP-101 for when .357 ammo is warranted.

You may wear the gun expecting to use it only if a snake becomes a problem, but larger animals may intrude on a hike or fishing trip, and humans are always a threat. I just don't think a .22 is the answer in this role.

That's a nice holster. It comes up further on the cylinder than does El Paso Saddlery's usual work. I prefer that. Lobo Leather? I had a very nice Safariland M-25 holster, lined and basket stamped, for my M-34. I sold it with the gun. I use an El Paso model VERY similar to the old Safariland M-29 for my M-60-4. Would have kept the Safariland for the Kit Gun, but knew that I'd be buying a three-inch barreled .38 to replace the .22.

The S&W M-36-1 is also a fine small trail and camp gun, but I really think stainless steel is indicated in that role.

Bill Jordan told me that he regarded stainless as the greatest advance in handgun design in about 100 years. I think he may have been right. Harry Archer's accounts of his revolvers in humid South America certainly argued strongly for stainless guns.

I think your .38 S&W loads are a lot better than a .22, but a .38 Special is preferable. Still, many here will want to know about that ammo. Those with British .38-200 revolvers will want to consider using them.

It must be tough being you then. I didn't realize I had an obligation to tell you about everything in the photo. Would you like to know what I used to take the photo with? Time of day? Temperature? Humidity?

Yes it's BB ammo, POI is a tad low at 20 yards. With a 6 o'clock hold they hit right below the sights.

Holster, sorry but right now he's making them at a quick clip and the last several times I let out about relatively 'unknowns' the waiting list went from 2 weeks to 2 years.

Thank you.

It does make it nice when the pictures are labeled as to what you are showing
Like is it horse or cow poop

I apologize, I should have known that S&W Regulation Police 38 S&W (Pre-33) wasn't good enough.

The firearm in the photo is displayed on 3 bricks that were in a pile behind my barn. I'm not certain who made the bricks, but I can look into it.

The green stuff around the bricks is grass. I'm not a horticulturist so I'm not certain as to they type of grass. I'm pretty sure God created it, unless you don't believe in God. In that case I'm pretty sure it just happened.

The ammunition is held in a 5 round Quickstrip. Item number T0814. The Quickstrip was purchased from Amazon (not to be confused with the river or rather tall women). Amazon is an internet/online business used for the purchase of items.

The internet is what I'm utilizing to convey information to the uninformed.

I apologize as I don't recall the cost of the Quickstrips nor the Buffalo Bore Ammo. I'd have to go to the respective internet sites and find my receipts again.

I do recall what I paid for the S&W (Smith & Wesson) Regulation Police (chambered for 38 S&W, not to be confused with Special). I also recall what I paid for the holster.

The purchase price for the holster and firearm are no one's business, regardless if you ate grits with Elmer Keith.

This post had my sides hurting!

Best response I've seen in a while!

Reminds me of this:
E-mails from an Asshole

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Hey! What's wrong with eating grits with Elmer Keith?

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Actually, I have had breakfast with Elmer Keith, but don't recall that the Winchester press relations man had grits included in the buffet. It was otherwise an exceptional, generous buffet. Elmer did pour Scotch in his tea, though. First time I'd seen that.

As for the OP, many people who see these posts where someone wants to show off his gun and related items generate reader curiosity about those items and where they can be obtained, if not a common brand. If a common brand, that info is still appreciated by many.

I'm sure that many of us get tired of having to post to ask for that info. No need to get nasty.

If you make posts that are going to cause people to ask for added information, it won't kill you to post that info with the OP. No, it's not required, but it'd be considerate of you to do it. Without the snide sarcasm...

If you don't want to publicize the holster maker, that's your right. I was giving you the opportunity to do so, if you felt like helping him out.

Sorry that this simple request for more info that many here would want to have has ruffled your feathers so badly. That wasn't my intention.

This board doesn't allow personal quarrels, so I won't be replying further in this topic.

We just had a thread about sarcasm. I don't know how the poll turned out because I could never find the poll.

Nice fiveshooter there!

No problem. In fact, if you wouldn't mind I'd love to mail you the holster if you'd be willing to autograph it for me.

Thank you for your consideration and I look forward to learning MUCH from you. I am truly humbled.

Regards,

Scott


PS: The only names I can drop are those of a few hot hookers from San Antonio, can't imagine that will impress anyone, so I'll decline.

If anyone wants to know, please PM me.

Thanks for answering my question on POI. I would really like a holster like that with a flap for outdoor wear.

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Yep, no problem, but I almost slipped on the squid slim.....


Retired Coastie

I like the 4 inch kit guns and always wished S&W had made a .38 Regulation Police and/or Model 33 in .38 Special with a four inch tube. I think that they considered the three inch guns close enough. I guess one could have a four inch .22 Kit Gun barrel rebored and remarked but that would be a pretty spendy inch.

I will behave myself. I will behave myself. I will behave myself...

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Buff,

It'd be a lot easier to start with the 5" Model 60 .38 Special Chiefs Special and wack off an inch! Or just re-thread a 4" Model 10 barrel.

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Yes, and it might be a matter of personal taste, but the 5 inch barrel M-60, with that too-long ejector rod shroud, is so ugly! JIMHO, of course!

I guess with enough work you could make a K frame barrel fit on a J frame, but I can make my Crown Vic fit into a microwave oven box with about the same effort, I think. I saw a similar thing happen in Goldfinger, the James Bond movie with Sean Connery, but that car was a brand new Lincoln.

Couldn't agree more on the 5" plus I have little use for stainless although very popular and I know I'm in the minority.

So Mod 10 slender barrels would be my preference or even Model 15 slender barrel if I was going to put a target sight on the rear.

Currently put a slender shrouded 45 Mtn gun target barrel on a 1917. Removed the rib and ramp front sight and replced it with a 1917 1/2 penny blade. It's SS of course but I'll have it blued.

It'd be sacrilegious to carve on a factory Mod 36 Target.

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Jim: I have long admired your .32 Kit Gun. I almost had one like that made up just when S&W introduced the M-631. Not a pretty blue, but okay on every other count.

Personally I think the people on this forum especially newer members should show more respect to members like Texas Star. He is one of the most helpful and informative members here and should be treated as such.

Buff,

You lucky guy, that's a real prize. Don't see too many of those. If they weren't so scarce, and if I found one, I'd be tempted to have it blued.

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Let me first say...... nice bricks...... but what type of grass is that?

For about 5 years here on Sarcasm Central I've been posting about my current "Kit gun"... a 3" 60-10 in .357 magnum....think micro 686.... loaded to taste with shotshells to to +P .38s to......... ouch! .357s!

I would post a picture......... but after news reports yesterday.... I'm not sure if the backdrop is 100% Egyptian cotton or not!

Personally I think that respect is earned and not given out like candy on Halloween.

Mr. Texas Star started the show with being pompous and he got it right back.

I agree with you and started a thread on that a couple weeks ago on the wish list forum. I like the overall appearance of the 4" j frame, and ammo is more varied in 38spec. Having both a 33 and a 63 with 4" bbls they just feel "right" in my hand. I'll have to start loading my 33 to see what I come up with as I don't think Smith is going to make my wish altho i did get some good advise on the thread responses.

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The Buffalo Bore ammo runs just under $1.50 per round. Money well spent.


Remington on the left, BB on the right.

My basic idea is that the ideal kit gun for you is the one in caliber, frame size, barrel length, and sights is the one that suits your needs and desires sufficiently well (and is available and affordable to you) to be on your hip when the opportunity arises. My ideal "kit gun" would be the adjustable sighted stainless Model 631 in 327 Fed Mag... unfortunately I don't currently have the extra $1500-2000 it would take to make my dream come true. OTOH, with a little help from a friend I was able to get a Model 60-4 that does most of the same stuff and does it well, so I'm OK for now. Kit guns, like most other personal firearms are just that, personal. So of course YMMV.

Froggie

PS I might be able to "get by" with a 4" adjustable sighted pre-War 32 HE, a custom option I've been looking into, but I'd end up spending almost as much building that as buying the 631!

Holster and all, that is a very nice set up!

I have option anxiety.
.32-.32 Kit gun
Pro: A real sixshooter.
Con: New caliber to tool up for.

.38-.32 Kit gun
Pro: Common caliber (I mean the Specials, not S&W, although I still have some .38 S&W ammo and can improvise dies.)
Con: Only five shots.

Hmm, now where was that ad for the Police Positive Target?


Re: Identifying props. If you want to know what the stuff is, ask. On the other hand, I get kind of tired of the common picture of a knife alongside the gun. What, you expect to run out of ammo and have to slash your way out of trouble?

We're about an hour apart from one another.

.....as I desperately search for a way to like this post twice.

At least give dimensions and weight for each brick in case some of us want to duplicate them.



You could get your county agent to come out and ID the grass, and get back to us with that info. Please tell us what you use to cut it, and if you fertlize it, or just count on BS.
I would ask what church you go to, but religion is on the banned topics list.

Have you been to the Amazon?
Have you ever seen a real Amazon woman? Just asking cause I'm not sure they are real. I keep my eyes open for them, though, just in case. Bigfoots and unicorns too.


You should have credited Al Gore for inventing it.

Do you know what type plastic is used to make the strip?
On the ammo-
Bullet weight, alloy, and muzzle velocity would help.
I'd appreciate both the published velocity, and actual from your gun. If you don't have a chronograph, you might be able to get one on Amazon.


Well! Would you at least share whether it was cash or charge?



{ I don't often laugh out loud, but you're GOOD. You cracked me up with this one. }

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Yes, Yes, No, No and I like eggs.

But HOW do you like the eggs?

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GREEN????

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Steely85,
I don't think that I'v ever read replies as bitter, and nasty as the ones you have given to the forum members that showed interest, and ask questions about your post, showing a gun that you obviously wanted to share with the forum members, but evidently were not wanting to share other particulars with them. I just caught myself before I made the horrible mistake of asking the holster's maker! I am certainly glad that I didn't. A good way to keep from prompting all those terrible personal questions, that bother you so much, could be avoided by not posting at all! I don't know what would cause you to be so bitter towards your fellow forum members. I hope that You find relief. You have all of my sympathy.
Chubbo

Nothing bitter about it, I only responded to some 'guy' in Texas that was apparently having Santa Anna flashbacks about me not posting who made the holster.

Questions don't bother me in the least. Perhaps you see 'I hate it when.....' as a question, but I certainly don't.

I was happy to answer questions in this thread and others, unfortunately reading comprehension is a lost art.

Regards,

Scott


PS: Thanks for the sympathy, the last time I ever received sympathy from anyone was from my gay cousin Thomas. I appreciate the memories.

Not even with a goat.

The holster looks like a Chick Gaylord design from the 1950's. If anyone has Larry Koller's "New Book of Guns" from 1955 there is a photo of a holster made like that, but it appears to be made of ostrich.

I have a copy of the book, but we moved back in May and still have things in storage.

I too, would like a holster like the OP's.

So who made the holster and about how much did you pay for it? Love the gun. What did you pay for it? I just picked up a .38 Regulation Police in .38 S&W here on the forum recently. Serial number 33875. Paid like $500 for it. I will post a photo later as soon as I can go out in the yard and find a few bricks.

The grass looks like Zoysia or maybe Kentucky bluegrass.

Anybody know the words to Kumbaya?

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Kumbaya caused the biggest brawl I was ever personally involved in.
Tension started when some around the campfire were cold and wanted to put on another log. Others insisted that would raise our carbon footprint to unacceptable levels.
Some wanted to keep singing a cappella while others wanted the guitar picker to strum chords.

It was awful.

When the dust settled, eight people had been slapped, three beers had been spilled, one down vest had been torn, a styrofoam cooler had been broken, the tofu casserole got dumped, and the guitar picker broke a string.

The cooler was the worst part.
We naturally wanted to get it to a recycling center cause it lasts 400 years in the landfill, but the center was 19 miles away, and we were concerned with the vehicle emissions that would be created driving it there. Fortunately, a bicyclist volunteered to take it and all was in balance in the universe again.

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Save a tree, burn a tire.

I have one with the serial number 865XX. Any idea as to age/ship date? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Man handejector you hang out with the wrong kind of people

I did it. I actually managed to behave myself for a while. Of course, the night is not over.

So far so good...

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they don't give two puffs about emissions in Georgia, handejector, as long as it ain't a yankee makin em. and them peeps only got slapped cause they spilt beer.

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