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Old 08-25-2016, 09:57 PM
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hi guys , did any Police dept issue model 27's or pre model 27's with 3 1/2 inch barrels ?
I think I once read a net article or post on a south western pd that issued nickeled
model 27's or pre model 27's with 3 1/2 inch barrels,
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The Utah Highway Patrol issued the .357, pre-27 and 27 through 27-2 in 3-1/2 inch and blue finish from 1935 until the mid-to-late 1980's when they switched to the H&K squeeze cocker in 9mm. UHP issue guns are neatly marked on the frame.
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The UHP issued RMs? I wonder how many and where they all are now?

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Austin PD in mid 60's. APD #261



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"The UHP issued RMs? I wonder how many and where they all are now?"

Probably less than a hundred RM's, probably a lot less. The UHP was never a very big agency, I don't think they have 400 troopers even now.

All over the country. Saxon Pig has posted photos of his. I have never seen one for sale here, but I think he said he bought his when he lived in Utah some time ago. The R.M. replaced the 6-1/2 inch Second Model .44 Specials they first issued. I've got one of those.

I went through the state police academy with 3 UHP rookies in 1981. Their issued guns were all M-27 -somethings and were really worn, one being almost unsafe to shoot from almost no carry-up. He did his firearms training with his own Model 19.

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Here's a Mod 27 from around 1960 that was a police issue weapon.



Smoothest action of all my N frames.

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Remember for 20 years....1935 to 1955 if you wanted a .357 it was an N-frame ".357 Magnum" some from 1935 to 1940 had Reg. Mag. numbers........... some did not............. or like my Dad a 6" Colt New Service......

OK I think there were a few Colt SAA's made.........

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IIRC Highway Patrolman was introduced in 1954........ became the Model 28 in 57"

Combat Magnum was introduced in 1955 ? and became the Model 19 in 1957

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On the most popular auction site, there is currently a 4", 27-2, marked "Utah Hwy. Patrol" for less than a grand. Somebody needs to give that poor orphan a forever home. And no it don't need to be me........ hardcase60
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I have a non-Reg Mag that was PD issued in a Dallas,TX suburb.

My father has a Reg Mag from Kansas City...I know that there were many issued in that dept.

Here is a photo of my Non-Registered Magnum that was sent to University Park PD, Dallas,TX in 1940.




I also know that the Austin, TX PD issued pre-27, model 27 and it's variants in nickel. There is one member here who has several in his collection.
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All the Kansas City RMs that I am aware of had 4" barrels and hump back hammers.
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All the Kansas City RMs that I am aware of had 4" barrels and hump back hammers.
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This one did not have a humpback hammer. January1940


This Reg. Mag. went to the Evansville, IN. PD in 1939, 1 of 13. It has a humpback hammer.


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The Florida Highway Patrol issued 5" nickel M27s for a while.
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hi , 27's or a small run of 28's ??
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hi , 27's or a small run of 28's ??
Both. A friend of mine left our small East Alabama sheriff's department in the late '70s and went to work for the FHP. He was issued a 5" nickel M27.
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hi crsides , please tell me more about your model 27 , who made the grips the are great ??
also how and where is your revolver marked APD #261 ?
is your model 27 a 27-2 ??
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grips are Keith Brown roper's. They are nice.
It's a 27-2, I think around 1965-67. I have the history of the gun's service somewhere around here. I guard it so securely I have a hard time finding it. Most of these for APD were nickel and 3 1/2". I'll see if I can find the pic showing the markings. BTW, its one of my most favorite smiths. BFF.



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howdy . its very fine sixgun , I will post a picture of my model 27 after it been refinished
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