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11-06-2016, 06:15 PM
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Parker Hale conversion
Maybe I am missing something but when I read a thread about someone with a British conversion Victor Model somewhere down the thread the words "junk" "worth dirt" or "trash" are used by forum members. Personally I have 4 "Model 10s". Two are 1902s, one is a 10-8 (3 inch) and a Parker Hale conversion. Why do I have the conversion?
1. It was not too much money
2. It is fun
3. It will go up in value (most likely)
4. It is a great way to enjoy one of the best revolvers ever made
As I think about my 10-8 that I paid $185 for a few years ago I cannot help think that when I am offered (and turn down) $300 plus for it often I cannot help but think that todays "non-collectable conversion" will possibly be tomorrows "classic conversion."
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11-06-2016, 06:19 PM
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What was the Parker Hale converted to?
I have seen PHs that were the usual .38/200 to .38 Special, I have seen adjustable sighted sorta K38s, I have seen adjustable sighted sorta K22s.
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11-06-2016, 06:22 PM
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.38 Special
Yes. 38 Special. Converted to 4 inch barrel.
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11-06-2016, 06:41 PM
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Exactly what P-H conversion do you have? A .38/200 Victory rechambered to .38 Special? How was it done? Was there anything done to the barrel?
Parker-Hale has a reputation for good work. The British-done Victory conversions I have seen were done by Cogswell & Harrison, and generally by simply re-boring the chambers rather than sleeving them. Most Victory .38/200 conversions were done by "Anonymous," with corresponding workmanship.
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11-06-2016, 06:54 PM
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Yes and done by Parker Hale. A lot of the "anonymous" that I have seen were chopped to stubbies and many I see go on auction sites for higher that expected $. Listed often as "rare" Victory snub nosed revolvers. A good, high quality conversion is a fine shooting revolver.
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11-06-2016, 08:37 PM
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So do you have the full Parker Hale conversion with 4" barrel, long ramp front sight that says "Parker Hale" on the base, and the sleeved chambers? That would indeed be the highest-quality BSR conversion known, except for those that were equipped with replacement .38 Special cylinders and barrels after the war, of course.
PH's BSR conversions to .22 usually got a name cartouche like in the photo below (which I snipped somewhere a while ago; not mine). The .38's did not have a big marking like the C & H conversions, but they are usually easily distinguished since C & H used a very obvious simple triangular front sight, while PH's sight has a very long support rib.
PH did sell parts as such; I've seen the PH-marked sight on guns that were obviously not PH conversion.
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11-06-2016, 09:03 PM
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Yes. Did not know that someone would fake a conversion or better said spend the time and money to put a Parker Hale ramped site on a lesser quality gun. Seems like the price difference when these were being imported would have made that not cost effective.
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11-06-2016, 09:38 PM
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I have always felt that a serious Victory collector should have a few good examples of converted .38/200s, including one of the .22s.
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11-06-2016, 10:20 PM
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I've examined several of the 22 PH conversions and am amazed at the workmanship that goes into those guns. Never shot one yet, may have to put one on my short list.
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11-06-2016, 11:37 PM
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As a general point of information, it is easy to distinguish BSR's surplussed out in Britain as to whether they were converted in Britain (usually higher quality) or by Bubba after re-import to the US (usually lower quality).
BSR's sold to surplus dealers by the British government had to be submitted to one of the proofhouses (most often Birmingham or less frequently London) for proofing before being offered for commercial sale. British dealers who did conversions, like Parker Hale or Cogswell & Harrison, did not send their guns for proofing until after the work was completed.
Therefore British-converted BSR's will show the stamp for the proof load case length as 1.15", the .38 Special. The more common post-import US conversions will show the case length as .767, meaning when they were sold in Britain, presumably to an export business, they had not been bored out yet.
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