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Old 01-14-2017, 04:00 PM
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Did S&W ever print on a K-22 (pre 17 or 17) anything but .22 LONG RIFLE CTG on the right side of barrel
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Old 01-14-2017, 04:12 PM
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I own several and they all say 22 long rifle ctg. I'm assuming you have ne that says different?
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Old 01-14-2017, 04:26 PM
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Well I also have two and both are like yours. I saw a pic this morning that was not real clear but could make out 22 W-- CTG. I couldn't make out the other two letters but it did not say long rifle.
The gun is for sale and I cant find anything different in the S&W Standard catalog or in any pictures on the net. Hopefully I can find out something before I see the man tomorrow about buying it.
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Old 01-14-2017, 04:46 PM
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If it read "22 M.R.F. CTG." it would have been an M48 of some sort, perhaps with its auxiliary 22 LR cylinder installed. -S2
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. . . I saw a pic this morning that was not real clear but could make out 22 W-- CTG. I couldn't make out the other two letters but it did not say long rifle . . .
Could it have been 32 WCF CTG? aka Winchester Center Fire or later designated the 32-20.

If so it would have been pre-WWII.

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Old 01-14-2017, 05:04 PM
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I will know more after viewing the gun tomorrow and I'll post what I find.
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My SN 340XX has "22 LONG RIFLE CTG"
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I second the MRF
An other would be a model 53
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What's the model number, inside the crane on the frame?
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I didn't get to see the gun but the owner sent me some pics of the gun.
Hopefully you can see the barrel which says 22 W.R.F. CTG and the ser #K386---. Whats your thoughts?
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I didn't get to see the gun but the owner sent me some pics of the gun.
Hopefully you can see the barrel which says 22 W.R.F. CTG and the ser #K386---. Whats your thoughts?
I assume this is a Model 48 but wasn't aware it was chambered in anything other than .22 MRF. Here is some information on the .22 WRF.

.22 WRF (.22 Rem. Special)

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K386xxx would make it as shipping in 1959-60, and I have never heard of a K22 having been chambered specifically for the .22 WRF/Rem Special (but .22 WRF will chamber in the .22 WMR, as the main dimensional difference is length). Some earlier Colt Police Positive revolvers were chambered in .22 WRF, don't believe S&W ever offered anything in that caliber. I can't tell much from your pix. What's the caliber shown on the box? It could be a one-off special order. Might well be worth the cost of a letter.
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K386xxx would make it as shipping in 1959-60, and I have never heard of a K22 having been chambered specifically for the .22 WRF/Rem Special . . .
Until we have better pictures of the box and caliber marking on the barrel . . . it sounds like the box is marked K22 Masterpiece (&/or Model 17) and a gunsmith has re-chambered the cylinder to accommodate the WRF cartridge, hopefully bored the barrel to .224", and marked the barrel to reflect the revised chambering.

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Thanks linde and dewalt. What would you value this one at ?
Hopefully I will hold the gun tomorrow.
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It's very difficult to estimate the value of a modified gun (if in fact it has been modified). It's going to be valued as a shooter, not a collectible, and further, being chambered in .22 WRF will definitely not be attractive to anyone wishing to use it. That ammo is costly and difficult to find (although I think someone is now loading it). I don't think I'd want it at any price, just a personal opinion. I'd suspect that anyone interested in it would want to rechamber the cylinder to .22 WMR. NOW, if it came from the factory chambered for .22 WRF, that's a totally different story.
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The pic of the barrel is better in person than what I listed. I believe it is factory original but if things go as planned I will post more tomorrow evening.
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For the second time in two days the seller cancelled out & wouldn't give me a time when I could see the gun. So something is fishy about the whole mess.
I'm sorry to involve all of you and a waste of your time.
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For the second time in two days the seller cancelled out & wouldn't give me a time when I could see the gun. So something is fishy about the whole mess.
I'm sorry to involve all of you and a waste of your time.
That is most likely due to the fact that the seller is also a member of this forum and due to the comments above has realized that he has a special order gun from S&W that is worth twice what he was asking for it.

Look on GunBroker over the next few weeks for the new listing.
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