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REBOOT thread to search for members with CSTs. Thank you.
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60-1 ALU0737 2" shipped 1986.
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No box or paper, gun is in great condition.
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CIMG1353.JPGSal, here are three more for your list[ATTACH]]
First is Model 50, 2", blue, 932j28, 98% in the box.
Second is Model 36-6, 3", blue, bea7977, new in box
Third is Model 60-1, 2", SS, alu1917, new in box
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>> reboot thread, new numbers added. thank you for your participation, one an d all
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Hi Sal,
Here's my 36-6, BEA8859
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Appears "as new," Sal. No box or goodies. Here's the flip side.
As an aside, the SCSW 4th Ed. says there were 615, but I've seen one of Roy's letters where he says 2,000.
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Appears "as new," Sal. No box or goodies. Here's the flip side.
As an aside, the SCSW 4th Ed. says there were 615, but I've seen one of Roy's letters where he says 2,000.
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When these were produced, if i recall correctly, sometime in the 1990s, I had purchased a few of these. I liked them but I decide to sell them because they just seemed not to appreciate. I should have held them a few more years. Am I correct that this model came with a pair of Uncle Mike's on them ?
Not sure if the sister CST 3" was a satin nickel or a bead blast finish stainless. Do you recall ? Do you know how many of this nickel or stainless model were produced ?
Thanks for the input. the cooperation is much appreciated. I'll gladly accept an email message from any member to document SNs of any Chief Target Models advertised anywhere for sale (online, major auction house, etc) that I can document the serial numbers.
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No, the 36-6s did not come with UM grips. The Hogues are original, per Roy's letter about a different one, and they were among the "flavor of the month" 1989 offerings.
I can't help with the finish on the stainless (Model 60-4), and I've not seen or heard of a nickel version of that era.
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When these were produced, if i recall correctly, sometime in the 1990s, I had purchased a few of these. I liked them but I decide to sell them because they just seemed not to appreciate. I should have held them a few more years. Am I correct that this model came with a pair of Uncle Mike's on them ?
Not sure if the sister CST 3" was a satin nickel or a bead blast finish stainless. Do you recall ? Do you know how many of this nickel or stainless model were produced ?
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Example of Model 60-4. (Along with a 36-6) The 36-6 had the Hogues when I got it. The 60-4 had the Uncle Mike grips. I replaced them with the targets because it makes them look like 586/686 guns that were washed in hot water.
This one has a satin finish (Model 65-5)
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Data updated today. Need more serial numbers. Please submit your Chief Special Target SNs and ship dates (if you have) for the Survivor's list. All data is kept confidential. Email me at [email protected]. Sal Raimondi, Sr.
NOTE: Data elsewhere should be amended to show CST1s, are found in the 55xxx and 57xxx serial numbers only. Therefore stating 55xxx-57xxx is incorrect, as research shows, no CST1s were produced in the 56xxx serial number range.
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Model 60-1 ALU1425 Box & papers, un-used tools but no screw driver. Bought new 6-29-85 $279.00 from Gun Shack Phoenix AZ.
Guesstimate less than 200 rounds fired.
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Why don't we have a data base for this type of information on all guns?
We used to have a decent one. What happened??
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But I know for a fact that some gun sellers (clerks) robbed the SATs from new guns. I've met former clerks that brag about having a box full of new SATs.
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thank you, Perry. Date is added. I like the 60-1s. I purchased 3 x 60-1 Ashland CSTs, NIB, from Harrison Carroll in California, (NOT related to David Carroll) sometime in the late 1980s or early 1990s. Also, any time one would pop up in excellent or "as new" condition at a reasonable price I'd pick those up, too.
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SN: 57804 and SN: 67812 added today. Keep the info coming guys. Much appreciated. it is for all of us to share.
Thanks again. R.S. "Sal" Raimondi, Sr.
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Hi Sal,
Do you have the ship dates on them?
I hadn't known of 58704, but 67812 is a blue 2" that shipped June 11, '59.
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Do you have the ship dates on them?
I hadn't known of 58704, but 67812 is a blue 2" that shipped June 11, '59.
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I own 67812, was too lazy to go fetch the letter for the exact date. Thank you. Sal
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Me, too!
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I have M-36 Target # 391816 and # 391902, both bought in Austin, Texas. blued, squarebutt and 2 inch bbls. In the 1966 group.
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List updated today. Keep those serial numbers coming. Thank you.
from Joe Cebull and Sal Raimondi. Joe Cebull first started this survivors list about 20+ years ago and even before that in the pre-internet days.
We've been trying to get it as complete as possible. I've just been helping out.
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BC38, see if you SN is listed here. I've been keeping the count along with Joe Cebull for near 30 years now. All the best, Sal Raimondi
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Looks like I have the latest addition to the database.
I just picked up 149995 today.
I'm guesstimating it at about 80%, maybe 85% finish.
All original except the grips. Need to find a set of period correct square butt diamond magnas to make it right.
No box, or other goodies, just the gun.
I'll get some decent pictures to post once it clears BGC jail and comes home with me.
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One more found yesterday at a local small gun show(cheap)!
Mod 50, 2", SB, Blued, Numbered grips, 90% #930J79
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Haw anyone seen a 60-1 3" Target? Tim Mullin was looking for one when he was doing his book on J-frame revolvers (in limbo now since Blake Stevens died). I have seen quite a few 60-1 2" Target models but never a 3" one.
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Looks like I have the latest addition to the database.
I just picked up 149995 today.
I'm guesstimating it at about 80%, maybe 85% finish.
All original except the grips. Need to find a set of period correct square butt diamond magnas to make it right.
No box, or other goodies, just the gun.
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IT's on the list now. If you have trouble finding the correct grips, contact me. Congrats !! Sal Raimondi
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Took the butt ugly rubber off - no signs of rust or other marks under them.
So I gave it a quick rub down and wipe off. Then I put the wood off my M36 3" on it for a couple of quick photos.
Not the greatest pictures in the world - I'm not much of a photographer. Fact is about half the pics I took turned out blurry and unusable. I hate how you can't really tell how they'll turn out looking at the camera's screen. I'll have to take some more later, but here are 4 of the best ones I got this go around.
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Chief Special Target square butt replacement grips serial number 55102.
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Mod 36-6, matte finish, original box & tools, S/N BEA7771. Ship date July 1989. 95%. Original Hogue finger groove rubber grips. SCSW4 states one of 615, but Roy tells me there were 2000 made.
FYI, will be listed on a near future sale by David Carroll.
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I must have missed something.
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I must have missed something.
Are you selling them, looking for them, or what?
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Sorry for the confusion the target model I just bought has non Smith & Wesson grips on it look like Maple, and look homemade but a very good job. I will be looking for period correct ones soon.
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Sorry for the confusion the target model I just bought has non Smith & Wesson grips on it look like Maple, and look homemade but a very good job. I will be looking for period correct ones soon.
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Gotcha, so you're looking for the same thing I found for mine. A set of un-numbered black-washer diamond magnas.
Hope you find them. Shouldn't be too terribly difficult.
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I just noticed the label dosen't say target was this the standard box label for these target models in this time frame?
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I just noticed the label dosen't say target was this the standard box label for these target models in this time frame?
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Far and away, the majority of boxes for targets I recall, have a 'T' or 'Tar' or 'Target' written on the label with black grease pencil. Volume was so low, I don't know if there was a specific label for targets, and likely I'm just remembering labels from other target models that are actually stamped "TARGET".
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SN 55096 added 9/22/20.
Let's update the list as best possible. Joe Cebull and I need your help.
Sal Raimondi, Sr. S&WCA LM#1300
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A few new "adds" to our list.
Keep the data coming. We appreciate your help !
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Model 36-6, purchased in 2017. Model 60-4, KB Mini Cokes. Purchased in 1995. Never fired.
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Model 36-6, purchased in 2017. Model 60-4, KB Mini Cokes. Purchased in 1995. Never fired.
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I will list these for you in our REDUX however I need you to include the serial number of each, boxes, papers, tools, conditions etc >
You can IM or EM me the data if you'd like.
Thank you, Sal Raimondi, SR.
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