Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > >


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-05-2017, 10:09 AM
Targets Guy's Avatar
Targets Guy Targets Guy is offline
US Veteran
.38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change  
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Southwest Iowa
Posts: 6,075
Likes: 1,145
Liked 9,198 Times in 2,779 Posts
Default .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change

I think you can also call it a .38/200 BSR but most of the markings have been removed during the refinishing. Now it is chrome (trigger and hammer as well) and not done by Smith&Wesson. Cleaned up nice and the gunsmith now has it. I think it has a new barrel as the chambers have been reamed but the marking on the barrel says 38 Special. Serial numbers match on the cylinder and butt frame and indicate the revolver shipped in Dec 1941.

images hosting

photo sharing sites

imgurl
__________________
Mike
S&WCA #3065
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #2  
Old 03-05-2017, 10:39 AM
Göring's S&W's Avatar
Göring's S&W Göring's S&W is offline
SWCA Member
.38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change  
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Pittsburgh PA
Posts: 1,618
Likes: 1,228
Liked 3,071 Times in 537 Posts
Default

The barrel would have the SN on the barrel flat on bottom if original. If you are correct that the chambers were reamed, then the barrel is a replacement.
__________________
}-----Jim----->
~SWCA #2732~
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #3  
Old 03-05-2017, 11:50 AM
Targets Guy's Avatar
Targets Guy Targets Guy is offline
US Veteran
.38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change  
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Southwest Iowa
Posts: 6,075
Likes: 1,145
Liked 9,198 Times in 2,779 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Göring's S&W View Post
The barrel would have the SN on the barrel flat on bottom if original. If you are correct that the chambers were reamed, then the barrel is a replacement.
and there is nothing on the barrel flat; just chrome.
__________________
Mike
S&WCA #3065
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-05-2017, 11:53 AM
Targets Guy's Avatar
Targets Guy Targets Guy is offline
US Veteran
.38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change  
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Southwest Iowa
Posts: 6,075
Likes: 1,145
Liked 9,198 Times in 2,779 Posts
Default

and whoever put the new barrel pin in did a horrible job. the ends of the pin have been smashed on both sides. I'll post a photo when I get the gun back.
__________________
Mike
S&WCA #3065
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-05-2017, 12:00 PM
lamarw lamarw is offline
Member
.38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change  
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Lake Martin, Alabama
Posts: 659
Likes: 358
Liked 694 Times in 272 Posts
Default

I have your revolver's Grand Pa. It is also a Model 1905 4th Change. It was shipped from S&W on Nov. 19, 1929 to Allen & Jemison Company which was a hardware store in Tuscaloosa, AL. It was and still is a .38 Special.

Here are a couple of pictures. It has seen some use and has character wear to prove it.
Attached Thumbnails
.38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change-100_3504-jpg   .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change-100_3505-jpg  
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #6  
Old 03-05-2017, 12:12 PM
Targets Guy's Avatar
Targets Guy Targets Guy is offline
US Veteran
.38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change  
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Southwest Iowa
Posts: 6,075
Likes: 1,145
Liked 9,198 Times in 2,779 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lamarw View Post
I have your revolver's Grand Pa. It is also a Model 1905 4th Change. It was shipped from S&W on Nov. 19, 1929 to Allen & Jemison Company which was a hardware store in Tuscaloosa, AL. It was and still is a .38 Special.

Here are a couple of pictures. It has seen some use and has character wear to prove it.
That's a nice one. It aged well and has that wonderful patina to it.
__________________
Mike
S&WCA #3065
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-10-2017, 12:59 AM
Targets Guy's Avatar
Targets Guy Targets Guy is offline
US Veteran
.38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change  
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Southwest Iowa
Posts: 6,075
Likes: 1,145
Liked 9,198 Times in 2,779 Posts
Default

Update on the 1941 Lend Lease revolver I bought back in February. It did ship on Dec/41 and was a Blue finished Lend Lease revolver. If there were any proofs whoever chromed it removed them.

The cylinder ream job was not too good when they (whomever) changed the gun from a .38SW to a .38 special. When firing .38 specials the brass expands and sometimes splits. When firing .38SW the lead is shaved by the forcing cone. I didn't like either results so I was able to find a Victory 5" .38SW barrel (still in cosmoline) and a very good gun smith. He had the barrel chromed and installed it. Now the gun is back to a 5" .38SW (even though the cylinder is reamed out for .38 specials). Tomorrow (Oct 10) I am taking it back to the range to see how the gun performs.

Before mods


New (old) Victory 5" barrel


Restored .38SW BSR



the old and new
__________________
Mike
S&WCA #3065
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-10-2017, 02:07 AM
charlie sherrill charlie sherrill is online now
SWCA Member
.38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change  
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Brooklyn,Ms. 39425
Posts: 3,424
Likes: 1,231
Liked 4,164 Times in 1,021 Posts
Default

I wouldn't shoot that with free ammo.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-10-2017, 12:32 PM
Targets Guy's Avatar
Targets Guy Targets Guy is offline
US Veteran
.38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change  
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Southwest Iowa
Posts: 6,075
Likes: 1,145
Liked 9,198 Times in 2,779 Posts
Default

Back from the range. This revolver can shoot. Going to keep it.

Six rounds at 7 yards.


You have to have a ranging shot, right?
__________________
Mike
S&WCA #3065
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-10-2017, 12:33 PM
Targets Guy's Avatar
Targets Guy Targets Guy is offline
US Veteran
.38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change  
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Southwest Iowa
Posts: 6,075
Likes: 1,145
Liked 9,198 Times in 2,779 Posts
Default

__________________
Mike
S&WCA #3065
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
.38 Military & Police Model of 1905 4th Change Target whelenshooter S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 26 03-09-2017 06:31 AM
.38 MILITARY & POLICE (MODEL OF 1905 - 4TH CHANGE bobhorger S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 13 01-29-2017 02:04 AM
NICE S&W .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 3rd Change mercenetti GUNS - For Sale or Trade 6 05-17-2013 02:46 PM
Military and Police, Model 1905 4th change nneamos GUNS - For Sale or Trade 4 09-15-2011 09:15 AM
S&W Military and Police Model 1905 4th Change FPrice S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 10 11-06-2007 07:24 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:51 PM.


© S-W Forum, LLC 2000-2015
Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)