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03-27-2017, 07:23 PM
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What do I have?
I picked this unit up at my local gun store today. They said it was a 1905-4th Change but weren't sure. Can anyone of you kinds folks help me out with its identification and maybe value?  
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03-27-2017, 07:28 PM
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To IDENTIFY your Gun > Please go to this link above and furnish the information requested. Then we can probably get pretty close.
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03-27-2017, 07:30 PM
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Not seeing a link, sir
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03-27-2017, 07:42 PM
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Welcome to the Forum. If you could provide serial number from the butt and barrel markings that would help to get the ball rolling. Looks like it might be a 1920's vintage M&P from the photos you posted. Ron
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03-27-2017, 07:50 PM
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Ser. # 185XXX Barrel markings are Left side 38 S&W SPECIAL CTG.
Right side as follows: Smith & Wesson Springfield Mass USA
Pat'd March 87, and then several patent dates that are difficult to read for old eyes
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03-27-2017, 07:52 PM
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It looks very much like a pre-1923 M&P, judging from the style of the grips and lack of the MADE IN U.S.A. frame stamping. A serial number would pin down the date more closely. In that condition, I hope you didn't pay more than maybe $200-$250 for it.
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Ser. # 185xxx would suggest ca. 1913. I show SN 1846xx shipping in 6/13. Except the grips are too new for that date, they are of the 1920s-decade style. It would indeed be a Model of 1905 as it has a square butt. Collectors would consider it a third change, S&W did not use "changes" in its nomenclature.
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03-27-2017, 07:53 PM
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Right it for $180 otd
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03-27-2017, 07:54 PM
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03-27-2017, 07:55 PM
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The timing and lockup are great. Thought for $180 would make a good truck/woods gun
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03-27-2017, 08:09 PM
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It will be fine for your intended use, but you should stick to using only lead bullet standard velocity loads. The cylinders were not heat-treated for extra strength at that time. $180 is OK for a shootable-condition K-frame, even if it is a beater.
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03-27-2017, 08:19 PM
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Thanks for the info
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03-29-2017, 04:30 PM
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My old M&P was lettered June 1919. 199699 Serial#. Bob
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