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Old 04-17-2017, 10:47 PM
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I have a S&W stainless steel hand gun.
Details include (updated, I didn't measure correctly first time) 4 inch barrel, hand ejector, 6 bullet, half-penny site with s/n P29446.

I will try to upload pictures from my phone. Any information you can come up with would be appreciated.

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Old 04-17-2017, 10:50 PM
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Open the cylinder and you should see the model as in
MOD 36 or whatever
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Old 04-17-2017, 10:55 PM
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The main serial number is stamped on the butt of the revolver. The first stainless revolver offered by S&W was the Model 60, a 5 shot small frame revolver, and was introduced in 1965. The half moon front sight was phased out in the 1950s.

Please post pictures and all markings.
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Old 04-17-2017, 10:59 PM
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Open the cylinder and you should see the model as in
MOD 36 or whatever
Model numbers were not assigned by S&W until 1957 and didn't start to show up until 1958.
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It is very hard to read what numbers are inside when I move revolver to the left. There are 4 characters, the 3rd is very hard to read. There is no "mod" in front.
1084
The 3rd character does not look as clean as the other numbers.
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4 screws - 1,2,3 and 5 as indicated by arrows on the id your gun
There is a strain screw in front of grip strap.
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I was guessing it was stainless steel.
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Are these the numbers off the butt of the gun? That where the serial should be.
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Default s/n on butt of gun

29446 with a very faded P in front of numbers
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Old 04-17-2017, 11:46 PM
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I have a S&W stainless steel hand gun.
Details include (updated, I didn't measure correctly first time) 4 inch barrel, hand ejector, 6 bullet, half-penny site with s/n P29446.

I will try to upload pictures from my phone. Any information you can come up with would be appreciated.
If that number is from the underside of the barrel, might that P be a "B"? If so, with a number of 29446 it would be a .38 M&P Model of 1902 from around May/Jun of 1903. And, I'm only assuming it's a .38 Special caliber gun. The "B" would indicate the gun was originally blued when it left the factory.
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I have tried to upload pictures but my error message says S&W timed out. Will try again tomorrow as it is getting late. Thanks everyone who has joined in the thread.
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Model numbers were not assigned by S&W until 1957 and didn't start to show up until 1958.
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My bad I guess, I just figured if the serial started with a P that it had to be made after model numbers were assigned.
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Old 04-18-2017, 12:14 AM
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The s/n inside gun has legible P after the numbers.
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29446 with a very faded P in front of numbers
A letter P on the butt (if that is indeed what it is) can only be a wartime proof. I would suspect a refinished BSR in nickel, but that doesn't mesh with a 5-digit number.
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Welcome to the forums from the Wiregrass! The correct SN is stamped on the bottom of the metal grip frame. If the grips are covering the frame, remove them. Depending on how old the gun is, the serial number may also be stamped under the barrel on the extractor rod flat and on the rear face of the cylinder. These numbers should all match.

If your pictures are timing out, they are too large to upload. Resize them to no larger than 1920x1080 pixels and they should upload fine.
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As noted above, look at the flat bottom of the grip frame for the number stamped there. If the gun is older it may read with the muzzle to your right with the grip frame up. Knowing what the chambering is (usually stamped on the barrel) would help too.
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The top of the barrel has the name Smith & Wesson Springfield Mass USA
followed by a list of patents beginning with a date that has been worn down but looks like April ** 88 (hard to read year)
March 27 94
May 21 95
July 15 95
Aug 4 98
2 more dates that are hard to read
Oct 8 01
Dec 17 01
On the underside of the barrel is 29446 followed by a circled P.
Inside the gun is a number that looks like 1094.
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Notice that your getting a lot of questions about certain items. Use the Identify your Gun guide and post what you find and this will be a lot easier. And welcome to the forum.

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It sounds like a Model 1902 AKA the 2nd Model M&P. It should have a round butt and be stamped on the left side of the barrel "38 S&W SPecial and U.S. Service CTG". There should be a locking lug under the barrel for the ejector rod and the knurled end should look like a mushroom. These revolvers were made in 1902 and 1903.
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Read the Sticky above - " To identify Your Gun" and provide us the answers, especially the caliber and what is the number stamped on the bottom of the grip frame? Ed.
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I was guessing it was stainless steel.

Bad guess. Probably nickel plated.
It was major news when the first stainless gun was introduced in 1965, long after this gun was made.


Read rhe barrel. Somewhere there will probably be a statement about the cartridges it fires, the caliber.


Is the gun badly worn, the nickel rusted through, keeping you from reading the markings well?
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The gun is very worn. The trademark of S&W is halfway worn off as well as writing on top of barrel. It is a 38 special, although you can barely read "special". It came with a leather holster and gun belt with bullets that have 38 special on the end. Let's see, I believe I posted earlier the other items from the link to figure out what kind of gun "you" have.

I believe it probably was made around 1902 or 1903. Does anybody have an idea how much value it has?
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You are not giving warm fuzzies about its condition. My guess is that you might be fortunate to sell it for $200 in a private sale, less to a dealer.
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Without pictures, the mystery will remain........
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