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32 Long HE (I Frame) MAYBE?
THINK I have a 32 Long HE (I Frame) manufactured in 1904. Serial# is 15710 with 4 ¼" barrel and 4-screw right side plate. Last patent date on barrel is Jul 7, 1903. Trademark is small and on RIGHT side. Here’s where I’m confused. The grips have 2 screws (see pic). I can find pics with 1 or 3 screws but not 2. Lower link on hammer assy has a straight end with small dia pin (see pic). Numrich info for what I THINK it is shows hammer lower link with “dogbone” end and larger dia pin (see pic). As you can see from the pics, the hammer tang/hilt was broken off at some point, prior to my possession. Am attempting to locate a suitable replacement hammer. Help in identifying what I ACTUALLY have and a value range would be greatly appreciated. Condition is as received. Scattered rust appears to be surface only. Have yet to attempt to clean it up but plan to use bronze wool to clean up the exterior. Thanks!!
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05-04-2017, 11:30 AM
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Welcome to the forums from the Wiregrass! You have a .32 Hand Ejector Model 1903 AKA the 2nd Model. And, far enough up in the SN range to say 1904 is likely when it shipped. The grips are called extension grips and were available on special order. The actionworks on this model did not incorporate a rebound slide. Hammer rebound was done with the trigger return spring that presses on the dogleg rebound lever you have circled attached to the hammer. In the last picture you have circled a later version of the Model 1903 which is not compatible with your configuration. I believe Numrich is sold out of your style hammer. There are other members here who are more knowledgeable of these guns and may know where you might find parts for yours.
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05-04-2017, 11:37 AM
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I'd say the hammer spur was intentionally cut off to make it a double action only revolver.Interesting internal workings.It sure does need a good clean and relube.
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Guy addressed your hammer issue, and I agree with Breakaway500 that the hammer spur was probably cut off intentionally. The fact that it has the extension stocks may indicated that it was owned by someone who was using it for target competition. Maybe he was shooting DA only. Who knows?
The extension stocks, while not rare by any means are quite nice on your gun. Here is a picture of a later Model of 1903 (yes, they are built on the I frame) with the standard stocks on it, as well as some pictures showing an even later .22/32 with hard rubber extension stocks like yours. I like them a lot and you probably will too. The Model of 1903 is easier to shoot well with these than with the standard round butt stocks, especially if you have larger hands.
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05-04-2017, 12:28 PM
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Welcome to the Smith & Wesson forum from Arizona.
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05-04-2017, 12:34 PM
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Thanks guys!! This helps. Yup, it needs a lot of TLC inside and out. So.... what are the chances a stripped "later" 1903 hammer would work with my rebound lever and other completing parts? Any thoughts on a value range with the current hammer or with a replacement; AFTER a thorough cleanup?
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05-04-2017, 12:52 PM
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Welcome to the forum Southboy,
The broken part of the hammer you refer to is the hammer spur. In most cases these have been broken off from the gun being dropped. Then the ragged edge is filed smooth.
It will likely be easier to find a damaged hammer with a good spur and graft it to you hammer by welding.
But here's a possible source for a replacement hammer:
"Aonepawninc" http://stores.ebay.com/aonepawninc
has a bunch of S&W parts for sale. Another forum member recently ordered a complete hammer for a pre model 30 from them. They are very customer oriented and have very reasonable prices.
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05-04-2017, 02:14 PM
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I think Jim may have the best answer. Find a junk hammer and transplant the spur. There were only about 14,000 of your model made and chances of finding an exact hammer are pretty slim. I looked to see if the previous model, the Model of 1896, hammer would work but it is configured differently as you can see in these pictures.
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