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06-13-2017, 09:21 PM
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waxed paper Victory
Last month at OGCA I was fortunate enough to acquire another 4” US Property G.H.D.Victory revolver serial V720558, All indications would leave me to believe that its was only factory fired but who will ever know.
Often times, during the wheeling and dealing stage they come with a story and this one is no exception, the seller told me this Victory was sold for $50.00 out of a armory back in the 70’s or 80’s located near Columbus, Ohio. He said the Victory revolvers were wrapped in a triangular piece of waxed Kraft paper and supposedly this is the piece that came with this gun. I suppose this story could be feasible.
Along with this story he said Stevens trench shotguns were sold for $70.00.
Anyone here have any information concerning the validity of “the story or the waxed paper”.
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If someone has time I would be interested in the date
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06-13-2017, 11:12 PM
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My Victory, s/n 650xxx, shipped in Aug 1944. Looks like yours has some holster wear on the muzzle but have no reason not to believe the story.
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06-13-2017, 11:20 PM
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I think the V720-range probably shipped Nov./Dec. 1944. As for the wrap, kraft paper was pretty commonly used for packaging during the war; but of course it's impossible to prove the provenance of a paper triangle unless it is actually printed on the paper .
Charles Pate's wording in the book on how the later Victorys (post-maroon box) shipped is ambiguous; he mentions "folded kraft paper", but then suddenly talks about a box again. In contrast to the Colt Commando, I've never encountered a Victory NIB.
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06-14-2017, 12:03 AM
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The closest SN on my list to V720558 are V7341xx which shipped in 12/44 and V7286xx shipping in 11/44. I also show an SV-prefix (SV7322xx, 6/45) ) fairly close to yours. In any event, your SN is fairly close to the end of the V-series. Quite a prize to find a nearly ANWOB Victory. I have no ideas about the waxed paper wrapper. Only thing better would be if it had the box.
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06-15-2017, 07:32 AM
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I also show an SV-prefix (SV7322xx, 6/45)
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If that is the same one that is in my database, it shipped on the 29th day of June to be precise, and it went to the Navy. Of course, I cannot be positive, since you didn't post the full number, but I am betting it is the same gun. I understand why you put in the two x marks, since neither of us owns this revolver. But it is the lowest number SV gun I have located to date.
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Question about the waxed Kraft paper.
Does anyone know of a source for original heavy type
waxed paper as used in the WWII years? There is a seller in TN
who sells some but it's not anywhere near the thickness
or "feel" of the original. I bought some of his paper and it's
like tissue paper by compared to the original.
Any ideas guys?
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06-16-2017, 03:49 AM
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I don't suppose that's some early form of VPI paper ?
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06-16-2017, 08:44 AM
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I don't suppose that's some early form of VPI paper ?
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Probably not, at least for WWII issue. The first patents on vapor-phase corrosion inhibitors (VPIs) for ferrous metals were issued just after WWII and into the early 1950s, and typically reference salts of volatile organic cycloamines. I've understood the first commercial-scale VPI use was during the Korean War era. I don't know exactly how, but I would guess that the organic amine salts were incorporated or impregnated into the wrapping paper. Any corrosion preventive papers used prior to the early 1950s must have used some other principle. What happens is that the salts are slightly volatile, and the organic amine vapors released are continually deposited on the ferrous metal surfaces, coating and sealing it against contact with water vapor - much like waxing the metal surface.
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06-16-2017, 10:18 AM
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Wow, DWalt. That's good info. Something I did not know. Thanks.
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