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Old 06-16-2017, 09:54 PM
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The 29 no dash wont arrive until tomorrow so shown pic was taken by another person. The K22 and K38 are both in my possession. The masterpiece guns are both lettered.

The K38 was sent to Quantico VA for delivery to General George Van Orden in Washington DC and it was noted on the letter that it was a very early 4" version. Grips are numbered to the gun and at very least its LNIB (if ever fired outside the factory). Box is numbered to the gun.

The K22 is a 5 screw from 1948. Box and grips are numbered and its almost as nice as the K38.

As I said, the 29 is not here yet. Its a no dash gun and I am pretty excited to get that gun into my safe as well.
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Well, let's see...almost three years on the Forum, three new S & Ws and at least six threads starting with "still not a Smith guy..." - serious denial going on here . Enjoy!
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Love to have every one of those myself! Congratulations!
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Old 06-16-2017, 10:56 PM
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Well, let's see...almost three years on the Forum, three new S & Ws and at least six threads starting with "still not a Smith guy..." - serious denial going on here . Enjoy!
Its become "my thing"....and thank you.
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"Still not a Smith guy but I did buy a few more."

Well, you might not be a Smith guy, but you are definitely missing a great opportunity to become one!! Come to the light!!
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How many Smith's do you have to own to qualify as a "Smith Guy?" If the number is high enough, I can tell my wife she has been worrying about nothing for the last 31 years of my collecting.
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"I got Smiths owned by Elvis, Gen. Patton, and Jesus Christ...but I'm not a Smith guy."
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Old 06-17-2017, 09:39 AM
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"The K38 was a govt ordered gun sent to Quantico VA for delivery to General George Van Orden in Washington DC and it was noted on the letter that it was a very early 4" version."
You might want to do a search on the forum for Evaluators, Ltd. That was Van Orden's gun shop in Quantico.
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I know what you mean. I think I own almost as many "very nice" Colts as I do Smiths, and overall the Colts are probably in better condition, but I'm not a Colt guy. I own several big bore Ruger Bisleys but I'm not a Ruger guy (Ruger Bisley guy, maybe).
I think I'll have my headstone read:
"Here Lies a Smith & Wesson, Damascus Hammergun & Old Mauser Carbine Guy, Who Finally Let His Powder Get Wet".
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Old 06-17-2017, 11:38 AM
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"The K38 was a govt ordered gun sent to Quantico VA for delivery to General George Van Orden in Washington DC and it was noted on the letter that it was a very early 4" version."
You might want to do a search on the forum for Evaluators, Ltd. That was Van Orden's gun shop in Quantico.
Sorry, I quoted one thing I was told and slightly misquoted what was in the Jinks letter.

The letter states it was sold to Evaluators Ltd, a distributor at that time in Quantico VA. for delivered to General George Van Orden of Washington DC. The letter mentions nothing about the govt (which is not relevant to me anyway). The letter also notes that this gun is "one of the very early 4" barrels".

I will do a little more research on Evaluators Ltd. and see what I can learn about that place.
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Old 06-17-2017, 03:29 PM
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Sorry, I quoted one thing I was told and slightly misquoted what was in the Jinks letter.

The letter states it was sold to Evaluators Ltd, a distributor at that time in Quantico VA. for delivered to General George Van Orden of Washington DC. The letter mentions nothing about the govt (which is not relevant to me anyway). The letter also notes that this gun is "one of the very early 4" barrels".

I will do a little more research on Evaluators Ltd. and see what I can learn about that place.
This one was mine for several years. You've got a good one! If I remember correctly the Generals wife, Mrs Van Orden, was instrumental in working with S&W to create the 4" barreled Combat Masterpiece. A lot of police and military police bought guns from Evaluators Ltd and she saw the need for the shorter barrel. Mrs Van Ordens daughter posted here on the forum a couple of years ago about her parent and the shop.
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Very nice aquisition,
I track early Combat Masterpiece and Combat Magnum serial numbers would you mind sharing that one here or via PM for my database ?

IIRC the very earliest CM shipped late 1949 with a 5 digit serial starting K 7xxxx
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Old 06-17-2017, 04:53 PM
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I don't mind at all:

K38 is: K90730
K22 is: K45724
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I cannot verify, but I list the first K-38 Combat Masterpiece as K76000, shipping in late 1949. I'd guess K90730 would have shipped around August 1950. What date does the letter provide?

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Old 06-17-2017, 08:23 PM
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I cannot verify, but I list the first K-38 Combat Masterpiece as K76000, shipping in late 1949. I'd guess K90730 would have shipped around August 1950. What date does the letter provide?
Believe it or not, the letter does not give a date when it shipped. Its not with me but I will verify that. I do have a picture of the letter here and it doesn't show a ship date. I am going to go take a quick look at it but I don't recall it showing a ship date.
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I purchased this gun originally from David Carroll. As the OP stated, there isn't a date typed in, but one is inked in at the top that states 8/14/50. I figured David might have gotten the ship date from Roy and wrote it at the top. The letter is from the late 80's. If the OP would like, I have a picture of the letter showing the date inked in at the top. I can post it here, but it's up to you.
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Interesting. I just picked up a Combat Masterpiece at the symposium from JayceNC.
It is a Quantico revolver as well. It is also lettered and includes the Quantico paperwork. But I am most definitely a Smith Guy.
Colts scare the bejesus out of me!
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I purchased this gun originally from David Carroll. As the OP stated, there isn't a date typed in, but one is inked in at the top that states 8/14/50. I figured David might have gotten the ship date from Roy and wrote it at the top. The letter is from the late 80's. If the OP would like, I have a picture of the letter showing the date inked in at the top. I can post it here, but it's up to you.
Its OK with me... and yes the letter is from 1986. Its fairly old.
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Here's the OP's S&W Letter.

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In the past, Roy Jinks would write courtesy (aka "free") letters with information about a particular gun but without the specific ship date. SWCA members can request the ship date here online and it may have been handwritten on the letter after being obtained this way.
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I will take another look at the letter when I got to the shop on Monday.
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You know Alan, that might be why this letter appears to not have ever had a stamp at the bottom. Even if it were a copy of the original it should still show most of the stamp.
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I received the model 29 today and its a beauty.
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I received the model 29 today and its a beauty.
There is just something about that 8.357" of blued steel anchored by beautiful factory "coke" stocks... To tide us over until you post your photos (needs to be more than one photo ), here's a couple of shots of mine:





These long-tube 44's even get a 357 guy like me smiling the big smile BTW - you can deny it all you want, but you are on the fast track becoming a "Smith Guy". That doesn't mean that you give up your other passions, just that you have broadened your appreciations.
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That's my point. There is a abundance of pythons and diamond backs. I simply do nor understand the price point. I guess the price is why I have not had the interest to learn more about them. I have also been told that the older colts are copied / counterfited quite often.
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I added the new 29 pics which were originally in this post up to the original post.

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Looks like a great package to me!!
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I have another Smith coming (shipped today). Its a 19-3 2.5" blued LNIB. Excited for that one to arrive.
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