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This One Photo Screams "Smith & Wesson"
I was looking through some old photos and found this one close-up image of a part of a revolver personifies the mystique, the history, the excitement, and the promise of what I view is Smith & Wesson. Can you guess the vintage, finish and model?
I would love to see your "One Photo" of a PART of a gun that Personifies your image of "Smith & Wesson".
Thanks for letting me share,
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This one....wish I had one with the lazy ampersand...
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Vintage: Early '50s (shape of the rib on barrel shroud, domed sight base pins instead of polished flush).
Finish: Nickel
Model: .357 Magnum (Pre Model 27).
"One Photo" of a PART of a gun that Personifies your image of "Smith & Wesson":
Photos thx to Sebago Son
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Looks like a nickel pre-27 with a 3.5 inch barrel. And Hondo is showing us a nice triple lock. I'll have to go through my photos to see if I have one of a "single part".
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Love this sort of thread.....keeps you looking at SCSW, and learning something every day!
Thanks Richard for starting.
My contribution is 5 "mystery" one part shots....5 different Smiths, widely varying vintage.
Take a shot or two (pun intended) at identity...I'll jump back on this evening (gotta go get the fireworks, BBQ makins, some cold ones, etc.) and see how the experts are doing.
PS: I did guess the finish correctly on the OP
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This combination.
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I don't have close-up photos of these (maybe I should take some - smile) but there are two features that speak to me.
The first would be a close-up of the upper side-plate screw. The "5-screw" Smiths are my favorites, particularly the N-framess.
Second would be the frame immediately above the cylinder release...free of that ugly, stupid lock and it's little arrow.
And yes I know that borders on boorish behavior but it is a statement about the S&Ws I admire, and where the company lost their way.
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How about this top strap.
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Some great posts so far!!!
My guesses on a couple of the posts:
Quote:
Originally Posted by MetalMan
This one....wish I had one with the lazy ampersand...
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My guess:
Model 60
Vintage: 1970s
Finish: Stainless
Caliber: 38 Special
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hondo44
Vintage: Early '50s (shape of the rib on barrel shroud, domed sight base pins instead of polished flush).
Finish: Nickel
Model: .357 Magnum (Pre Model 27).
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Bingo - November 1954 to be exact.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hondo44
"One Photo" of a PART...:
Photos thx to Sebago Son
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Model: 44 Hand Ejector 1st Model (a.k.a. New Century, Triple Lock)
Caliber: .44 Special (based on the hole size)
Vintage: Early teens
Features: Fixed Sight, 6" Barrel, Blue finish, and it is Lettered
How'd I do...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cmansguns
My contribution is 5 "mystery" one part shots....5 different Smiths, widely varying vintage.
Take a shot or two (pun intended) at identity...
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Model: 19-2 or 19-3 (due to the funky "&")
Caliber: 357 Mag
Features: 6" Barrel, Blue, late 1960's to mid 1970's
Quote:
Originally Posted by cmansguns
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Model: 1905 4th Change
Caliber: 38 Spl
Vintage: early 1920s
Features: Blue, 5" Barrel, Fixed sights
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Originally Posted by cmansguns
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Model: M&P 10-5
Caliber: 38 Special
Vintage: Late 1960s - early 1970s
Features: Blue, 4", Fixed Sights
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Originally Posted by cmansguns
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Model: K-22 Masterpiece, Model 17 (no dash) or maybe a model 18, Model 48
Caliber: 22 LR
Vintage: Early 1960s
Features: Blue, I'm going with a 6" Barrel
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Originally Posted by cmansguns
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Model: 60 (Chief's Special)
Caliber: 38 Special
Vintage: 1970s
Features: After Market Engraving, Stainless finish, round butt, 2" Barrel
How'd I do?
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Yep, S&W....
This image comes to mind...
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This, to me, exemplifies the attention to detail of Smith & Wessons manufacturing practices: the serial numbering of the rear sight leaf and the rear sight blade to the frame of a Model of 1899.
Regards, Mike Priwer
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I thought this one was pretty cool.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RKmesa
Some great posts so far!!!
My guesses on a couple of the posts:
My guess:
Model 60
Vintage: 1970s
Finish: Stainless
Caliber: 38 Special
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Actual DOB for the Model 60 is 1986
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Quote:
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Actual DOB for the Model 60 is 1986
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I've got myself sitting here saying "duh"... Somewhere in my mind I saw a pin holding the barrel on - but looking back, nope, it's not there... Thanks for straitening me out. And thanks for posting.
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This one is obvious but it is the best close up photo I have so far.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RKmesa
Model: 19-2 or 19-3 (due to the funky "&")
Caliber: 357 Mag
Features: 6" Barrel, Blue, late 1960's to mid 1970's
Model: 1905 4th Change
Caliber: 38 Spl
Vintage: early 1920s
Features: Blue, 5" Barrel, Fixed sights
Model: M&P 10-5
Caliber: 38 Special
Vintage: Late 1960s - early 1970s
Features: Blue, 4", Fixed Sights
Model: K-22 Masterpiece, Model 17 (no dash) or maybe a model 18, Model 48
Caliber: 22 LR
Vintage: Early 1960s
Features: Blue, I'm going with a 6" Barrel
Model: 60 (Chief's Special)
Caliber: 38 Special
Vintage: 1970s
Features: After Market Engraving, Stainless finish, round butt, 2" Barrel
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I'd say pretty well, except for the "K22 Masterpiece". I think that's a .22-32. The hammer screams "J Frame!"
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Quote:
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I'd say pretty well, except for the "K22 Masterpiece". I think that's a .22-32. The hammer screams "J Frame!"
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I have to agree with you; a Model 34-1.
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Definitely speaks S&W:
38 Reg Police and RP Targets 1917 to 1953, or
32 Reg Police and RP Targets 1917 to 1957, or
22/32 HFTarget ~1920 to 1923.
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answers to post 5 - kudos to Richard
Couldn't jump on last night but Richard nailed most of them, 2 right, 2 wrong, 1 dang close.... so here goes
Mystery 1: actually a Model 25-2, 45 ACP, 6.5" bbl shipped Feb 14,1972
Mystery 2: actually a K22 Ist Model (Outdoorsman) Letters to Nov. 29, 1931
Mystery 3: Richard dead on: Model 10-5, 4 inch, circa 1972
Mystery 4: Hondo44 and Lebomm nailed this one, a Model 34-1, 4", with round to square butt conversion stocks which I think (still having trouble confirming) were factory as original owner told me it came with them.
Mystery 5: Richard nailed this one too. It's my M60 no dash engraved by Ben Shostle, Stag grips, shipped June 9, 1981
Congrats to all who ventured opinions and guesses. I have enjoyed this whole thread and seen things (and parts) I didn't know existed in some models...just wets my appetite for more Smiths of different flavors.
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I'll Guess on a Few More
Some more guesses:
Quote:
Originally Posted by two-bit cowboy
This combination.
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Model: J Frame Model 34
Caliber: 22LR
Vintage: Late 1950's
Features: One of the later "flat latch" thumbpieces, target trigger, blue, 4" Barrel
Quote:
Originally Posted by lamarw
How about this top strap.
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Model: 27-2
Caliber: 357 Mag
Vintage: 1970's
Features: blue, P&R, 6" Barrel, target trigger, target hammer, target grips
Quote:
Originally Posted by lamarw
Another One.
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Model: Highway Patrolman Model 28-2
Caliber: 357 Mag
Vintage: 1970s
Features: blue, 6" Barrel, Magna grips
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnRippert
Innards.
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Model: Model 640
Caliber: 38 Special
Vintage: early 1990s
Features: Stainless, 2" Barrel, Rubber grips
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duke44
Not my best picture but you get the idea.
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Model: K-22 Masterpiece
Caliber: 22LR
Vintage: 1947 (single line Made in USA gives it away)
Features: 6" Barrel, "speed hammer", Blue finish, Magna "high shoulder" diamond center grips
How'd I do?
Lot's of fun so far...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RKmesa
Some more guesses:
Model: J Frame Model 34
Caliber: 22LR
Vintage: Late 1950's
Features: One of the later "flat latch" thumbpieces, target trigger, blue, 4" Barrel
How'd I do?
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Model: I frame 32 Hand Ejector
Caliber: .32 Long
Vintage: shipped June 1, 1956
Features: flat latch, TT, blue, 4-screw, 2"
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Great Thread. Here's one of my favorites.
The B****** Child of Single Shots...
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RKmesa, You came very close on my pictures. The Model 27-2 is 8 3/8" barrel. It was my fault since I could not get the entire barrel in the picture with a good close-up of the top strap. Production year 1979.
The Model 28-2 has a 4" barrel.
Thanks, and enjoyable and educational thread.
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Model 57 with tool room roll mark on the side plate (1968).
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Two .44's. What's different? What periods of production?
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Some more guesses:
Model: K-22 Masterpiece
Caliber: 22LR
Vintage: 1947 (single line Made in USA gives it away)
Features: 6" Barrel, "speed hammer", Blue finish, Magna "high shoulder" diamond center grips
How'd I do?
Lot's of fun so far...
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You nailed it! I love the 1 liners, "Made in USA" says it all.
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Jeff:
My guess - both photos are of the same gun.
Model: Early post war M&P "S" Serial Number
Vintage: 1946-1947
Caliber: 38 Special
Features: Long action, 4" barrel, blue, very early post war magnas with the pre-war "sharp corner" checkering
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Alright Sal, I'll take a "guess" at this one:
Model: the ".357 Magnum" (a.k.a. Registered Magnum)
Vintage: 1935 (shipping date 8/27/1935)
Caliber: .357 Magnum
Finish: Blue
Features: Small roll mark on the left side. It shipped with a 6.5" barrel, but went back to the factory for a barrel swap to 3.5" and sports a King base with a ramp front blade. In the photo, it sports ivory stocks, but it shipped with standard stocks and a separate grip adapter... It is a beauty!!!
How'd I do?
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I think the above two photos are of the same gun.
Model: 27-2
Vintage: Mid to late 1970s
Caliber: 357 Magnum
Features: Blue, 5" barrel, Ramp front sight, target stocks (in the bottom photo) and magna stocks in the top, target hammer, target trigger
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Without this name it would be far more subdued.
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Paul:
I should know this one as it is a .357 Magnum Pinto and I really try and pay attention to these... So hear goes:
Model: Pre-27
Caliber: 357 Magnum
Vintage: Mid to late 1950's
Features: Two Tone (Pinto) finish, special order, front sight has been replaced from a red ramp to a patridge with a red post, also has a white outline rear sight, currently sports smooth target stocks and has a target hammer, regular trigger, shipped to Rex Firearms in NY.
Well... am I close?
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Sideplate of my 15-3 Combat Masterpiece
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I don't know the 44 Specials very well, but here is my take:
Top one is a 6" barreled, fixed sight 44Spl from the early 1920's (Mushroom Extractor Rod Knob) - it shipped to Wolf & Klar, based on the "through the blue" engraving.
Bottom is a 5" barreled, fixed sight 44Spl from the mid to late 1930s (1930's knob)
That's all I got...
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That art deco front sight, and that beautiful crown:
Sorry, admit it; it's true:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RKmesa
Alright Sal, I'll take a "guess" at this one:
Model: the ".357 Magnum" (a.k.a. Registered Magnum)
Vintage: 1935 (shipping date 8/27/1935)
Caliber: .357 Magnum
Finish: Blue
Features: Small roll mark on the left side. It shipped with a 6.5" barrel, but went back to the factory for a barrel swap to 3.5" and sports a King base with a ramp front blade. In the photo, it sports ivory stocks, but it shipped with standard stocks and a separate grip adapter... It is a beauty!!!
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Ya did JUST fine!! but no mention of the factory installed " Transitional " Hammer when it went back to the factory in 1947
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Well going back to the factory explains the hammer cut for post war sliding bar safety hammer block on a Reg Mag.
I wonder if the PW safety block was automatically done by the factory upon a return for barrel change or if the owner requested it?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RKmesa
A few more guesses:
I think the above two photos are of the same gun.
Model: 27-2
Vintage: Mid to late 1970s
Caliber: 357 Magnum
Features: Blue, 5" barrel, Ramp front sight, target stocks (in the bottom photo) and magna stocks in the top, target hammer, target trigger
Paul:
I should know this one as it is a .357 Magnum Pinto and I really try and pay attention to these... So hear goes:
Model: Pre-27
Caliber: 357 Magnum
Vintage: Mid to late 1950's
Features: Two Tone (Pinto) finish, special order, front sight has been replaced from a red ramp to a patridge with a red post, also has a white outline rear sight, currently sports smooth target stocks and has a target hammer, regular trigger, shipped to Rex Firearms in NY.
Well... am I close?
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In a word no.....lol
Model caliber vintage wrong
It is a Pinto and the front sight is straight from the factory.
Shipped to NY but not Rex
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