Identify my s&w 22long rifle ctg

Alaskanoldiron · #1 07-09-2017, 02:26 AM

Hello I'm Jeff I just joined your site and very impressive site I might add. In reviewing a couple of your threads I believe my 22 is an outdoorsman. Would like to confirm that and get year of mfg. Here are some pictures to help identify. OK well I can't figure out how to add more photos. So the s/n on the button plate is K 193051. On the frame under cylinder swing is the letter E and 84121 the the number 7

Alaskanoldiron · #2 07-09-2017, 02:34 AM

More pictures

Wiregrassguy · #3 07-09-2017, 06:19 AM

Welcome to the forums from the Wiregrass, Jeff! The gun in your picture is a 1953 K22 Combat Masterpiece. In 1957, when S&W went to model numbers, it would become the Model 18.

Guy

JP@AK · #4 07-09-2017, 08:42 AM

Hi Jeff and welcome to the Forum from Palmer. It's nice to see a fellow Alaskan on here. There are a couple others of us.

Guy gave you the straight scoop. You have a .22 Combat Masterpiece from 1953, and its a dandy. The stocks appear to be original. These are fine revolvers.

If you look around the Forum, you will see there are several different categories for different models from different eras. You posted in the Antiques section. Your Combat Masterpiece should be in the 1896-1961 Hand Ejector section. I will ask Lee to move it.

Stick around. I believe you will like it here.

S&WsRsweet · #5 07-09-2017, 08:48 AM

Nice firearm thanks for posting .If you shoot it please post results and more pictures .Welcome form Alabama .

Alaskanoldiron · #6 07-09-2017, 03:14 PM

Thanks for the reply yes the moderator move my post for me. And thank you for your help with this. The combat master piece was one I had thought while researching but wasn't sure what they meant by 5 screw. But thank you for your help the only thi n g I want to do to this pistol is find something to remove the red site paint my grand dad put on it.

JH1951 · #7 07-09-2017, 03:28 PM

Very nice K model you have there.
Welcome to the forum from Pennsylvania!

Peak53 · #8 07-09-2017, 03:41 PM

You should be able to remove the paint with alcohol or acetone with no harm to the blue finish. Apply with a Q-tip and a little scrubbing. Those solvents will remove oil, so be sure to touch up with a bit of gun oil afterward. Unfortunately, I only have 4 K-22s. Enjoy shooting Smith & Wesson's finest.

Wiregrassguy · #9 07-09-2017, 03:58 PM

If you are married, your wife may have nail polish remover (acetone). That should take it off.

Guy

JP@AK · #10 07-09-2017, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Alaskanoldiron

I . . . wasn't sure what they meant by 5 screw.

There are five frame screws in your revolver. Four are in the sideplate, although one of them is hiding under the top of the right stock panel. The fifth screw is in the front of the trigger guard. Sometime in 1956, the top sideplate screw was eliminated, reducing the screw count to four.

montezumaz · #11 07-09-2017, 11:17 PM

"the letter E and 84121 the the number 7" on the yoke are factory assembly numbers.

iskra · #12 07-10-2017, 12:49 AM

Just to add the significance of distinguishing the "5 Screw" revolver frame. Earlier than the 4 screw and eventually 3 screw iterations in S&W revolver frame construction cronology. To collectors, the generalization that the larger number of screws, the more valuable within context of models which history encompassed the earlier, larger screw counts. Your 5 screw, to some, the pinnacle of the 'screwy' valuation! Pun intended, though generalized truth that earlier guns tending to be more finely crafted than later production.
Thus also the term encompassing "Pre" followed by a model number. The model numbers attached about 1957 and such as a "Pre Model 15" for example, usually implying somewhat better quality of earlier era craftsmanship. Not always true, but a generalization firmly entrenched and more often true, though incrementally.
These explanations/observations, offered for editing.
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Just my take

JP@AK · #13 07-10-2017, 01:44 AM

Okay. Just for the fun of it, I'll throw a monkey wrench into iskra's screw explanation.

The M&P models did not originally have five screws. Prior to 1905, they lacked the one in the front of the trigger guard. That one was added c. 1905, with a re-design of the cylinder stop mechanism. So the order went something like this:
1899-1905 = four screw
1905-1956 = five screw (cylinder stop plunger screw introduced)
1956-1962 = four screw (top sideplate screw eliminated)
1958 Model numbers introduced, still four screws
1962-present = three screw (cyl stop plunger screw eliminated)

So there!