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Old 07-11-2017, 11:25 PM
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In April Judy, Jerry and I did a Smith & Wesson display in Canada at Calgary.
While I was at the show I was able to pick up this Triple Lock and have it imported to the USA. The 5 inch Triple locks are very Scarce I have only seen one other. This one was a single shipment to a Commercial Distributor in April of 1915. This Triple lock was owned by a Officer in the Canada Army.
With the Revolver a received his holster with his name in it. The officer was
Lt. Blake of the 50 Batt. I am in the process of getting Lt Blakes records.
There has only been one other order shipped to Canada of 5 inch triple locks.

Enjoy the pictures and the history of this Triple Lock.
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Old 07-11-2017, 11:35 PM
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What a great specimen of the elusive 5 inch Triple Lock. What was the red tape like importing this into the states if you don't mind me inquiring?

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Old 07-11-2017, 11:54 PM
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Good on ya Jim, nice it get it home, eh?
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It was a very rewarding trip to Canada! Wow Jim congratulations!

At this point I'm incredibly envious of your collection, but your collection is well deserved. You have put amazing amounts of time and effort into assembling it as well as displaying it. I'm glad that you're still able to find these guns (or they find you),but it gives the rest of us hope we may find our "grail" guns! Many people don't understand how much skill, work, luck it takes to find guns of this caliber...let alone the financial side. Keep it up!
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Old 07-12-2017, 12:11 AM
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"The 5 inch Triple locks are very Scarce I have only seen one other."

Jim, are you speaking of the .455 TLs or all Triple Locks?
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"The 5 inch Triple locks are very Scarce I have only seen one other."

Jim, are you speaking of the .455 TLs or all Triple Locks?
Must be talking about just the .455's,I know there are more than 2 .44spl 5" TL's.....
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Old 07-12-2017, 03:58 AM
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Hi Jim,

That another 'screamer for your collection and thx for sharing with us.

I find it very interesting of course due to its condition and 5" barrel of course. But also because of its serial #! I immediately question if its #5724 is in the 44 1st model serial # range (like the original 666 TLs converted to 455 that went to the British military)?

Or since Roy identified it as a 455 1st Model TL, is it in the British contract # range? But those TLs in that range ended at #5461? Your #5724 TL would be in the 455 2nd Model range beginning at #5462.

I know of another 455 TL commercial from Canada # 5788 seemingly in the same situation, discussed in my thread here:
.455 Mk II revolver research thread
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Old 07-12-2017, 07:00 AM
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I bought a 5" triple lock serial #1890 at the OGCA show in January. Finish isn't as nice as yours. I'll try and post pictures later....
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Oh man that is nice and having the history and holster wow what a treasure .Thanks for posting ,and kudos to Hondo44 as the research thread has truly been informative especially for new guys like me .Oh yea learning what " full stop" meant back in the olden days was well worth the read .

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Old 07-12-2017, 09:04 AM
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Mine for show & tell, before & after, deja vu --


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It's every bit as pretty as mine.

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Hi Jim,
We talked at the show, but I did not guess you were the guy that beat me to that triple lock. Great find - thanks for adding details and pics here. I did not know about the 50th Battalion connection, but makes sense as the 50th Battalion was recruited right there in Calgary and was in France by August 1916. What great condition that TL is in for going into action with the 50th Battalion just over 100 years ago!
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Tom
We really enjoyed the show we will be back next year. looking forward
will have a S & W display again different from this year.
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Jim Fisher-

Nice find! But I seriously doubt the holster went with that gun. It's meant for a .45 Colt New Service if a RCMP gun or the same or a Webley like the MK VI or Wilkinson-Webley with six-inch bbl.

The flap seems arched out of position. Maybe used with a 6.5-inch barreled TL or Second Model .455?
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Hi
I am only going by what I was told when I bought the gun. He had the gun and holster for over 30 years. Lt Blake would have used what holster was
given to him by the Army as they only used 6 1/2 inch guns.
Thanks for your comment but I am going by what I was told.
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I am only going by what I was told when I bought the gun. He had the gun and holster for over 30 years. Lt Blake would have used what holster was
given to him by the Army as they only used 6 1/2 inch guns.
Thanks for your comment but I am going by what I was told.
Jim
Officers bought their own sidearms and leather gear. But it might be all that was available.

The muzzle end of the holster does seem wrinkled/crushed from carrying too short a barrel. But when this began, who knows?

I' ve seen photos of holsters for four-inch guns, mainly for Webley MK I-V revolvers, both flapped officers' and open-top Other Ranks holsters.

The MK VI was made standard in 1915 and longer barreled holsters became the norm. However, many officers were already buying six-inch barreled guns for years. A good example is Churchill's Model 1892 Wilkinson-Webley.

Canada may have adopted holsters for 6.5 inch barreled guns early in WWI, as many S&W's seem to have gone there.

I've read that in WW II, the S&W .38 was actually the norm for Canadian forces.
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No need to wait for his records

They are probably among those already available online for free

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That is a cool find for sure!!!!
Where in MT do you reside?
I live in this great state too!
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Thanks for sharing the pics and info on that historic revolver. She's a beauty!
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That is a cool find for sure!!!!
Where in MT do you reside?
I live in this great state too!
I spent some time in Montana in the early 60's while in the Air Force. Wife and I both liked Montana just a few miles from the border (Glasgow AFB).No doubt a great state.. Wonderful people.....
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Your gun sure looks a lot better than mine. The funny thing is that here in Georgia I have only seen 3 Triple Locks out for sale in my life, and all of them had 5 inch barrels. Must be a Georgia thing. I only bought one of them because, at that point, I already had one. I'm not really very smart a lot of the time. Plus, I was kind of poor back when I saw them. Here's a picture of my only one which I've already posted too many times before.
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Your gun sure looks a lot better than mine. The funny thing is that here in Georgia I have only seen 3 Triple Locks out for sale in my life, and all of them had 5 inch barrels. Must be a Georgia thing. I only bought one of them because, at that point, I already had one. .
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here is the letter on the other shipment of 25,
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