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Old 07-14-2017, 08:17 AM
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Here we go with another "What's it worth?" inquiry.

I was at the range today. An old friend asked me to help him evaluate two revolvers he inherited.

One is a .32/.22 , fair finish , mechanically sound. (Purchased new by present owners grandfather , not shot much.) Grips are excellent. Original box and tools are in possession , although I did not see those items. I know that this information is a bit vague , but I thought you folks could put me in the ballpark , please.

Next up is an item with which I have no previous knowledge - a .22 short tip-up. The finish on this one is poor , grips excellent , mechanically sound. The "story" on this one is - grandfather was a LEO , took the piece off of a perp , FWIW.

My friend has no heirs and intends to sell these revolvers at some future date. If anyone would like more info I would be happy to oblige , better pictures , serial# and so on. This was all I got in our brief time at the range.

Hoping for input ; Thank You.

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Old 07-14-2017, 08:34 AM
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32/22 ,, 450.00 ,, Tip up 250.00. Rough old guns, these are realistic values. No collector value. Just tired old iron.
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Old 07-14-2017, 09:32 AM
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Not so fast on that .22. We'll require more and better pics of that bad boy, before we can assess the "real" value. Looks pretty interesting.....
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One is a .32/.22 , fair finish , mechanically sound. (Purchased new by present owners grandfather , not shot much.) Grips are excellent. Original box and tools are in possession
I think the $400 mentioned for this is VERY LOW.
Original box and tools add SIGNIFICANT value.

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The proper name is 22/32, not 32/22 and without the serial number, the value cannot be accurately estimated. It could be an original Bekeart, a later model sold through Bekeart, or a standard 22/32 HFT. Looking at the stocks, it suggests a 1920s era HFT but they may not be original?? At any rate, the gun with box and tools is worth more than quoted. I think you might have a $550 - $600 gun/box/tools.

As for the Model 1, 3rd, they just do not sell for much money, even in good condition and for some reason the cylinder and barrel look very dull compared to the frame?? Better pictures would be very helpful to be more accurate, but $250 might be on the high side . . . or not . . .
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22/32 , thank you.
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It was good that Gary corrected the nomenclature. Let me explain:

It gets its name because it is a .22 caliber revolver that was built on the .32 caliber frame (I frame) which was larger than the tiny M frame that the then-current rimfire revolvers were built on. Until 1931, S&W did not build a .22 on the K frame, so the .22/32 was called a "Heavy Frame Target" model until the introduction of the first K-22.

This same naming convention was used on other guns. For example, in 1930, the company introduced a .38 caliber revolver that was built on the .44 frame (N frame). It was called the .38/44.
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If I saw that 22/32 out with the original box, I'd likely drop $700 on it pretty easy. That's assuming there is nothing wrong with the gun. It looks pretty clean in your photo. Last one I saw out was from the 1930's. No box. LGS had $1500 on it. Way high. He took forever to sell it. Don't know what he got, but he had a good bit in it.
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JP@AK -

Thank you as well for the expanded information.

To all -

I will try to arrange for better pictures , including box and tools , next week.
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