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Old 07-16-2017, 07:24 PM
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S&W 38/44 HD we picked up at the local gun show here last week.





Serial number is S748XX. Grips are not correct, but in fine shape for a revolver its age. Slight barrel wear at the muzzle that is hardly noticeable, and one spot of wear under the cylinder release. Under $650 with tax. One of the reasons to check out the gun shows is you never know what you might find especially if in the market for older firearms.

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Nice if I ever find one like that for the same money I'll grab it.
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Old 07-17-2017, 10:09 AM
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Very nice find. I'd have picked that up and not put down also.
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Old 07-17-2017, 10:29 AM
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One of my favorite revolvers in one of my favorite chamberings. Congratulations!

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Looks like you have an early post war transition there. Good find ! Even though the stocks have been replaced with newer stocks, still well worth the value you paid ... and ... well worth a letter from Roy Jinks.
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Nice looking 38/44- and what a price! Congrats
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Old 07-17-2017, 10:04 PM
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That would make a nice .44 Special.
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Must be a HeavyDuty week, got mine last week too.
Mine is only a few hundreds younger than yours.
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That would make a nice .44 Special.
Or an even better .45 Colt.......
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Very nice!......I have one similar......Bored to .357 so that's what I use in it......
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Old 07-18-2017, 09:26 PM
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It saddens me to see so many folks who want to ruin a perfectly good, and historic S&W revolver. Instead of thinking of an HD as "just a 38 Special" you need to load up some real 38/44 rounds, driving a 158g projectile at a little over 1100 fps for this 4". You will find shooting that ammo changes the character of these fine old service revolvers and you may learn to appreciate it for what it is.

OK, I'll get down off my soap box. (smile)

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It saddens me to see so many folks who want to ruin a perfectly good, and historic S&W revolver. Instead of thinking of an HD as "just a 38 Special" you need to load up some real 38/44 rounds, driving a 158g projectile at a little over 1100 fps for this 4". You will find shooting that ammo changes the character of these fine old service revolvers and you may learn to appreciate it for what it is.

OK, I'll get down off my soap box. (smile)

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BTW........Mine was bored out when i got it......So that's what I use....Therefore not running the risk of getting 38/44 specials into my J&K frame 38's.....Had it still been a 38 that's what I would have used in it........
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Old 07-19-2017, 11:39 AM
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Mike,

My little rant wasn't directed at you but to those who see an old Heavy Duty and immediately want to make it a 44 or 45. (smile)

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Old 07-19-2017, 11:53 AM
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But, but, but,,..........I LIKE twisting the tail of the guys that prefer their .38/44s in .38 special.
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Old 07-19-2017, 12:43 PM
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I am no big gun guru and how does the second number equate to the caliber of the gun? 38/44, 45/70 ect.
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Well, you are trying to compare apples to oranges. With S&W revolvers, the second number indicates the frame size. e.g., 38/44 is a .38 caliber on a .44 caliber (N) frame. Also, .22/32 indicates a .22 caliber on a .32 caliber (I) frame. This was back when the .22 frame was the Ladysmith M frame (tiny) and the .32 Long was the larger I frame. The .38 Special was on the K frame while larger calibers (.44, .45) used the larger N frame.

With cartridges, it is the caliber followed by the black powder load in grains. So, 45/70 is a .45 caliber bullets propelled by 70 grains of black powder.
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Old 07-19-2017, 01:37 PM
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Thanks for clearing that up. I thought with the 45/70 it was the powder charge but was totally lost on the 38/44 meaning.
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Very nice indeed. I would have been on that like a Democrat on your wallet.
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But, but, but,,..........I LIKE twisting the tail of the guys that prefer their .38/44s in .38 special.
Muley,

My tail wasn't twisted, I was just saddened by the lack of respect (lol).

It may say "38 S&W Special" on the barrel but it's a whole other critter if your load it right. (smile)

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My tail wasn't twisted, I was just saddened by the lack of respect (lol).

It may say "38 S&W Special" on the barrel but it's a whole other critter if your load it right. (smile)

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It's also got a pencil barrel.
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It's also got a pencil barrel.
I prefer to think of it as a "proper" barrel. (smiling again)

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Thanks everyone. No conversions on this one it will remain a .38 Special that will include loads like Dave T mentioned in an earlier post to get the true 38/44 experience. Although we both are liking this one Wendy does admit it is heavier than she prefers so this may be one I get to shoot more. She is a big fan of K Frame Smiths being her favorites.
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My “beater” 38/44 5” Transition SN 678xx. Purchased as a parts donor long ago @ $200. Indeed, ‘almost-decent’ original grips and good hammer soon yielded to recipient Transition models, one in 44 Spl. After some decades, this ‘specimen’ itself perhaps coming of age for respect, even if not restoration worthy! Bore decent; to recollection, finish the largest negative. Of course, at the rate I ponder… Moving forward on it in my next life! 😊

Love these Transition & 1950 N Frame models! Unless true basket cases, always prefer to see them kept original & cleaned up as possible or perhaps decent restorations. Yet the latter, often not economic. Quality work pricing pushing beyond resulting ‘net worth’!

Rechambering? Viewpoint respected and perhaps ‘utilitarian’ rather than ‘idealist’. Yet from 'history in hand' to 'nice old gun'.
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Serial number is S748XX. Grips are not correct, but in fine shape for a revolver its age. Slight barrel wear at the muzzle that is hardly noticeable, and one spot of wear under the cylinder release. Under $650 with tax. One of the reasons to check out the gun shows is you never know what you might find especially if in the market for older firearms.
Congratulations!!! I HATE to pass up a show for that reason. (not that I've scored like that) Bob
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