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A Piece of S&W History
I have always been interested in the history of S&W as well as collecting the 44 Magnum. The metal plate shown below was "shot" by S&W in late 1955 or early 1956 to demonstrate the power of its Magnum revolvers, particularly the 44 Magnum that had just been developed. I am sure if this plate could talk it would have many interesting stories to tell.
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07-22-2017, 06:18 PM
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Nice clean hole drilled by that .357. Impressive comparison. Thanks for sharing.
BTW, I grabbed it for reference. 
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07-22-2017, 06:33 PM
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I thought 9mm Luger and 9mm Parabellum where the same thing? Curious why they shot it Twice with the same Caliber.
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07-22-2017, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 05CarbonDRZ
I thought 9mm Luger and 9mm Parabellum where the same thing? Curious why they shot it Twice with the same Caliber.
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It is the same. I bet one was a +p for it's era. Like one was a 9NATO
Parabelum translates to "For war". I bet that was the "+p"
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07-22-2017, 06:36 PM
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It is the same. I bet one was a +p for it's era. Like one was a 9NATO
Parabelum translates to "For war". I bet that was the "+p"
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Good call! How thick is that plate Bill?
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07-22-2017, 06:56 PM
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^Yes..how thick..and is it plain steel..stainless steel or? It's awful shiny..for unpainted mild steel.
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07-22-2017, 07:50 PM
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I'm betting less than 1/4", and probably a grade of stainless.
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07-22-2017, 08:04 PM
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Considering the time period, the Parabellun round was probably WWII surplus ammo meant for use in submachineguns, whereas the 9mm Luger round was probably commercial ammo. Just a SWAG! 
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07-22-2017, 08:09 PM
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Considering the time period, the Parabellun round was probably WWII surplus ammo meant for use in submachineguns, whereas the 9mm Luger round was probably commercial ammo. Just a SWAG! |
I would say that is an excellent SWAG.
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07-22-2017, 08:32 PM
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I am sure if this plate could talk it would have many interesting stories to tell.
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huh?.......ooh.......ow
ouch......OMG.......ugh
doh.....SON OF A...Are you thru now?
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Perfect visual/comparative illustration of the power of the MAGNUM! 
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Some of you Long Islanders New York may remember Bergs gun shop in Islip Long Island. I was in his shop and a guy brought in a bunch of new at the time ballistic lexan plates for testing. Well they proceeded using the standard calibers 38 special, 9mm, 357 magnum and 44 magnum. In the testing none of the pistol rounds penetrated the lexan sheets. Mr Berg goes and trots out a M1 Garand with a clip of AP ammo. All 8 rounds zipped right through those lexan sheets. This was in the 1970's before the tellers in banks had the lexan barriers to protect them against being shot at during a bank robbery. He had a lot of everything in that store. Antique winchesters, mil surps and modern firearms. They had a little pistol range in the back. Also the town of Islip had a rifle and pistol range behind bergs and the Islip speedway was right across the street. Frank
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Neat. Now that is a great addition for any serious collector..
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07-23-2017, 10:00 AM
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I used Laser Cast .357 158 gr. with 15 gr. of 2400 and .44 240 gr. with 22 gr. of 2400 and both loads clocked over 1400 fps. I shot several 20 lb. propane tanks and the .357 went through one side with a big dent in the other side but the .44 went through both sides.
My test leads me to believe that even though both shot through the plate in the OP it would be possible to keep increasing the thickness of the plate until the .357 wouldn't shoot through but the .44 would. Larry
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