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New 22 RF
I recently picked this up at Cabelas in Post Fall Idaho. I gave $500 for it and, having never owned such an old Smith so would like to learn a bit here. The SN is 4957XX. Any and all thoughts appreciated.
[Imgur]( http://i.imgur.com/lwCfZ4M.jpg)
[Imgur]( http://i.imgur.com/agYCJVV.jpg)
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That's a nice looking .22/32 Heavy Frame Target. Would have been made in the late 1920's or in the 1930's. I don't have my SCSW handy so someone else may come along with a better date. I'd say you did better than good on that purchase!
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Wow, that's a screamer! And a screamin' price as well.
From my database it shipped between 1/1929 and 3/1929. Got out the door before the Black Thursday market crash, held many Smiths captive in the factory inventory, some for 10 more years.
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Nice find!
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For what it is worth, my .22/32 HFT with serial number 425650 shipped in October, 1925. So yours probably dates to no earlier than the mid-1920s. But Hondo's caution that some of them hung around for a while is worth noting. Only a letter can tell you for sure when it left the factory.
Here is a picture of my 1925 example:
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Jack, wouldn't the large ejector Rod knob put it after mid 1928?
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Wow, that's a screamer! And a screamin' price as well.
From my database it shipped between 1/1929 and 3/1912
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1912? Did you mean 1932? Or what?
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The Wall Street crash was Black Tuesday, in 1929, so I'm having some problem understanding your point, Jim.
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Jack, wouldn't the large ejector Rod knob put it after mid 1928?
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Well, at least after mid-1927. So I was hedging a little with my "mid-1920s" but notice I said "no earlier than" and 1927 is still "mid" in my book.
Good point, though, and well taken.
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I think Jim meant to type 1942. At least, that's what I would have done and great minds think alike.
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Jack, wouldn't the large ejector Rod knob put it after mid 1928?
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No, it would have had a large ejector rod before 1928 and a barrel shaped knob after, which should actually be called a small ejector rod knob, since there were only two for all S&Ws except for the Models 1896 & 1899.
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Wow, that's a screamer! And a screamin' price as well.
From my database it shipped between 1/1929 and 3/1912. Got out the door before the Black Friday market crash, held many Smiths captive in the factory inventory, some for 10 more years.
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I'd give you a high-five for stealing that firearm from Cabelas!
You da Man!!!
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I'm sorry Gary but I learned on here that there was a mushroom ejector rod, a large ejector Rod knob and a straight Rod knob. Now the revisionists want to change that. Far too much time is spent here quibbling over terminology. Everybody needs to get over it and move on.
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I'm sorry Gary but I learned on here that there was a mushroom ejector rod, a large ejector Rod knob and a straight Rod knob. Now the revisionists want to change that. Far too much time is spent here quibbling over terminology. Everybody needs to get over it and move on.
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Mushroom ejector rod, a large ejector Rod knob and a straight Rod work fine when one mentions all three. But as soon as someone states they have a "large knob", most people will think it's a mushroom rod just like Gary, because it's the largest.
When I state mushroom knob, barrel knob, or straight rod, I get no confusion or questions, and don't have to clarify which I mean.
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I'm sorry Gary but I learned on here that there was a mushroom ejector rod, a large ejector Rod knob and a straight Rod knob. Now the revisionists want to change that . . . Guy
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My mission is to stamp out errors, omissions, and injustices wherever they occur. . . . where's my cape??? I can only surmise that whoever came up with LERK, never owned a pre-1928 S&W, but the perpetrator has never surfaced. My vote is for Mushroom, Barrel, and straight, or anything but LERK!
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My mission is to stamp out errors, omissions, and injustices wherever they occur. . . . where's my cape??? I can only surmise that whoever came up with LERK, never owned a pre-1928 S&W, but the perpetrator has never surfaced. My vote is for Mushroom, Barrel, and straight, or anything but LERK!
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Amen, anything but LERK!
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Jack I have 4258xx that has lettered to Dec 3,1925.
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From my database it shipped between 1/1929 and 3/1912. Got out the door before the Black Friday market crash, held many Smiths captive in the factory inventory, some for 10 more years.
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1912? Did you mean 1932? Or what?
The Wall Street crash was Black Tuesday, in 1929, so I'm having some problem understanding your point, Jim.
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Sorry about that!
Meant 1/1929 and 3/1929 and before "Black THURSDAY" Oct 24, 1929.
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before "Black THURSDAY" Oct 24, 1929.
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Yeah! There was a "Black Thursday" on October 24, on which the crash accelerated, with the market losing 11% of its value. That continued the following week when, on "Black Tuesday," October 29, the market lost an additional 12% of its value. About 16 million shares traded that day, which set a volume record.
The market slide didn't end until July, 1932, when it finally hit its lowest point in the entire century.
So we are both right.
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Yeah! There was a "Black Thursday" on October 24, on which the crash accelerated, with the market losing 11% of its value. That continued the following week when, on "Black Tuesday," October 29, the market lost an additional 12% of its value. About 16 million shares traded that day, which set a volume record.
The market slide didn't end until July, 1932, when it finally hit its lowest point in the entire century.
So we are both right.
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No, you were and are right.
I made two mistakes in a row. I have to admit I was trying to reference the "big crash" date which as you posted was the 29th, not the 1st crash on the 24th. :-(
I'm going to have to get used to not depending on my memory any longer at my age, and verify more!
Thank you,
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Beautiful, congrats!
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