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Earlier this year I bought a Brazilian 1937. The finish is worn almost to the point of not being there. But the bore, chambers, and mechanics are all excellent. The major issue is the stocks mere mis-matched. One is checkered and has a gold colored medallion, the other is checkered with no medallion. There are both what you'd expect an 80 year old veteran to look like. Lots of character. I was lucky enough to buy a mate to the non medallion in similar condition and after a light cleaning they look like they've been together forever. Now I have an extra stock with a medallion. Does it have any value?
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I'm sure there's someone that needs it for for similar reasons you needed one. Put it up on the "for sale" section here and see if someone can use it.

Given the condition and the fact that it's half of a set, you aren't going to get rich on it. Be realistic about value. I'd think if you sold it for what it cost you to buy it's replacement, you'd be doing fine.
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Earlier this year I bought a Brazilian 1937. The finish is worn almost to the point of not being there. But the bore, chambers, and mechanics are all excellent. The major issue is the stocks mere mis-matched. One is checkered and has a gold colored medallion, the other is checkered with no medallion. There are both what you'd expect an 80 year old veteran to look like. Lots of character. I was lucky enough to buy a mate to the non medallion in similar condition and after a light cleaning they look like they've been together forever. Now I have an extra stock with a medallion. Does it have any value?
Undoubtedly. I guarantee there's another opposite side out there in someone's 'woodpile'. But as you know they're just as incorrect as the medallionless stocks for either of the Brazilian issues.

Because of all the 455 N frames produced for the British, my estimate of the # of gold medallion stock pairs is 91,000. But you'll have to determine if your Brazilian is a '37 (checkered stocks with flat chromed medallions) or '46 issue (smooth stocks). See below:

BRAZILIAN CONTRACT 1917s (1937/1946)

In 1937 S&W made some 25,000 1917s for Brazil, most in serial range 181983-207043 with exceptions as usual that have serial #s far out of this range, using the late or post WW I produced flat top frame with sq notch rear sight, and these are stamped “MADE IN U.S.A.” on right frame side with the S&W trademark on left side of frame. They also have a Brazilian Crest on the side plate dated 1937. These first contract Brazilian 1917s had commercial checkered grips with flat chrome plated medallions. Many Brazilians can be found with the import mark of the importer that brought them back to the USA. One common importer stamp is "IA CO SAC CA" (International Arms Company, Sacramento, California) but stamps of other big importers of surplus arms can be observed as well.

The 2nd Brazilian contract run in 1946 of about 11,800, most using surplus WW I produced frames in the 166,000 – 175,150 range with exceptions as usual that have serial #s far out of this range, most with older style round top strap and small U notch rear sight. Some were the newer flat top frames generally in the 207,196 – 209,878 range, with a few round tops also reported in that range. These '46 contract guns had WW I surplus 1917 smooth grips. These are also stamped “MADE IN U.S.A.”. Serial #s read with barrel to the left like all post war hand ejectors.
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I'm not really concerned if they're the correct grips. My 1937 is an early one. Its far from a collectors grade. I just didn't like the mismatched one that came on it. These look like they belong on it.
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As with most everything else, value depends on the overall condition of the stock - and the medallion. The condition of just the gold medallion might influence what you might expect to sell it for. I'm not even going to venture a guess at what you might get for it, but maybe more than you'd think if the medallion itself is in better condition than the wood.

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Old nasty large medallion grips languished for years in boxes and gun stores. About 15 or so years ago I went on a mission to liberate as many as I could find. My purpose was to save the good ones and scavenge the nasty ones for the medallions. My success was limited. But I still have a few lying around, catching dust. No, I don't have any interest in selling them.

About 10 years ago one of our grip makers paid to have a die cut to reproduce them. Your choice, sterling or 14k. The last time I looked, I had one set of the sterling medallions and a couple of harvested medallions flopping about. And 2 sets of the service stocks that would be period correct for a 1937. The problem being that they don't fit all guns. If you're buying or selling those a "retail" prices, its best to be certain they will fit the gun receiving them. Somewhere between many and most don't fit right.
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