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Here's some s&w info,

http://www.ogca.com/Legendary%20Kit%20Gun.pdf

I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to the older kit guns.

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Good info. Thanks.
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That is an interesting explanation of the development and demise of the .22/32 HFT's and the birth of the "kit" gun however, some of Tom's information is in error.

It reminds me of a scene from the movie Braveheart where they show a series of Scotsman telling the story of William Wallace killing first 10 men, then it becomes 50 men and lastly 100 men.

As information or facts are gathered, sometimes errors are repeated or expanded upon and the final story becomes something not quite resembling the original truth.

As we now know, Bekeart received 294 guns from the first 1,050 produced, not 292 as appears in many of the books. And there were more than 292 produced in this initial run and production was not halted at 292. All 1,050 of the original run of guns produced was assembled and shipped albeit not to Bekeart.

IMHO the birth of the "kit" gun was not the result of inquiries for a shorter barreled .22 but the result of a gun company trying to sell an I frame product when a new K frame .22 has been developed in the early 30's. They merely took the 6" I frame .22/32 HFT and cut the barrel to 4" and the kit gun was born.

There are a few other discrepancies with stock configurations and serial number starting points but suffice it to say, be careful when reading printed information as many times it is the opinion of the author and may not always be 100% accurate.
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Thanks, James. I noted some of those same points when I read the piece, but decided not to say anything because I figured someone else who has greater expertise in the .22/32 realm than I do would speak up. You did. Appreciated.
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That's cool, Tom comes to the NE Ohio Bunch regularly and is very helpful and knowledgeable. He displays a lot of the I & J frame guns. Now I know how dedicated he is. Thanks for sharing, Larry
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Here's some s&w info,

http://www.ogca.com/Legendary%20Kit%20Gun.pdf

I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to the older kit guns.
Thanx for sharing that Bill. It seems to be fairly current and reflects the SCSW - 4 clarification and correction of the Kit Gun confusion in the earlier editions.

A very fine article and well written, albeit, just a summary of a very complex subject.

I don't know when it was written but anything written falls victim to being obsolete almost immediately upon printing like anything S&W. The final edit may never be written because new information is constantly being discovered. It's a little like archaeology.

I agree with James above.

One must read several versions to get more than just a cursory view of the topic.

In particular Tom shows two photos; one labeled 'pre war (possibly a typo) transitional' and one labeled 'post war transitional'. He doesn't discuss the difference because they're both 'post war transitionals'. The only difference in the two photos is one has the rebated rd butt option with sq butt Reg Police style stocks, and the other has the rd butt option. A third option was the rd butt with extended two screw target stocks in the style of the HFTs.

Still a fine summary all in all.
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