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Old 10-12-2017, 06:36 PM
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Default K22 Outdoorsman Serial number ?

I picked up a nice shooter grade S&W K22 (maybe pre K22?) Outdoorsman .22lr revolver today. S/N is 646466. Can anyone tell me the approximate manufacturing date? It has adjustable sites, rear with a copper or brass half circle inlaid around the rear vee (semi circular notch) and what looks to be a nickel inlay in the front site blade. Diamond targets which aren't numbered.

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Pre-war Outdoorsman I think. Pictures of the sights would be interesting. I have 657805 which I think is 1937 so I think yours is early 1930s. They started at 632132 in 1931 according to the S&W Standard Catalog 4th Edition. Enjoy.

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FWIW, I own 632482 that shipped on 4-3-1931. These guns were called the Outdoorsmen's and an improvement to the .22/32 I frame "Bekeart model" that was a .22 caliber revolver built on the larger I frame then used for the .32 caliber guns. The "K" frame was a larger and heavier frame than the .22/32 I frame. When the .22/32's first came out they were referred to as the Heavy Frame Target or HFT as THEIR predecessor was the small M frame revolver that collectors now refer to as the Ladysmith.

However, compared to the K frame, the .22/32 isn't really heavy at all. With the introduction of the K frame .22 caliber revolvers, the .22/32's lost popularity however Smith and Wesson not wanting to waste frames in inventory shortened the barrel to 4" and called the new gun the "kit gun".
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#646192 shipped March 20, 1934.

#659434 shipped January 28, 1937.

Best guess on your rear sight blade is it's a King product (available from S&W on order). If it is, it will almost certainly say so---on the lower portion of the blade. (Back out the windage adjusting screws (one on each side of what I'll call the blade carrier), and lift the blade out. If it doesn't come out with relative ease, back the screws out further. (You can remove them completely with no harm, no foul; but they're quite small, easily lost, and they ain't making anymore of them.) Working over a folded several times Turkish towel makes for a nice (no bounce) surface.

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Attached are a couple of photos of the sites.
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[QUOTE=JSR III;139778109]FWIW, I own 632482 that shipped on 4-3-1931. These guns were called the Outdoorsmen's " James, no they are called the K-22 Outdoorsman.
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As you may know, the diamond targets while very nice, are much later than the gun. Could have come on several post war K frame models. Nice gun, enjoy.

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646545 shipped July 1934.
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Attached are a couple of photos of the sites.
The front sight is known as a Call bead (Call being the long time S&W employee who developed them). They were produced in gold, silver (the silver color referred to as "brilliant"), and ivory. They were produced with either a flush or raised bead---mostly flush I reckon, because I've never see a raised version----don't recall seeing an ivory version either.

The rear blade which I earlier noted as a "best guess" King product is a sure enough King product---sure enough I'd bet money on it.

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.... The rear blade which I earlier noted as a "best guess" King product is a sure enough King product---sure enough I'd bet money on it.
Didn't the King rear sight blades have a white (painted) semi-circle under the notch? To me, it looks like that one might be discolored a bit from years of accumulated gunk.

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I don't have an Outdoorsman with ivory bead front sight, only gold and silver, but I do have a 22/32 HFT with ivory bead patridge front sight. I suspect that they are rare as I have not seen another one.

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A member here posted with an Ivory bead K 22.
That I remember clearly.
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The front sight is known as a Call bead (Call being the long time S&W employee who developed them). They were produced in gold, silver (the silver color referred to as "brilliant"), and ivory. They were produced with either a flush or raised bead---mostly flush I reckon, because I've never see a raised version----don't recall seeing an ivory version either.

The rear blade which I earlier noted as a "best guess" King product is a sure enough King product---sure enough I'd bet money on it.

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A member here posted with an Ivory bead K 22.
That I remember clearly.
Here's an ivory bead on a K22...
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