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Old 10-17-2017, 11:46 AM
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A friend of mine left me a few hand guns. One being an older model 10. It is a 4 inch, 5 screw, hand ejector, fixed sights, 38special CTG, serial# C-164946. It's in great shape and has a set of Franzite grips that looks like they have been on it since it was new, and a little thingy on the trigger that makes it wider. Does anyone know the approximate year it was produced.

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Old 10-17-2017, 11:57 AM
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It's probably close to 1950 as they give a range of dates.
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Welcome to the forums from the Wiregrass! The "thingy" is called a trigger shoe. I agree with 1950 but someone with a database will come along soon and give a more accurate guestimate.
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Welcome to the forums from the Wiregrass! The "thingy" is called a trigger shoe. I agree with 1950 but someone with a database will come along soon and give a more accurate guestimate.

Thanks for the welcome Wiregrass, as you can see I removed the trigger shoe. It also had a another "Pachmayr thingy" in front of the handle.
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Thanks for the welcome Wiregrass, as you can see I removed the trigger shoe. It also had a another "Pachmayr thingy" in front of the handle.
...the Pachmayr thingy is a "Grip Adapter"...
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What is the emblem in the grip?
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Great looking gun. Hang on to it. Welcome to the forum, great place to hang out.
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What is the emblem in the grip?
Looks like the Franzite logo, an eagle with the name to its left.
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1950 is possible, but my list would indicate 1951 is more probable. I show several in the C150xxx to C152xxx range shipping in February, 1951.

And this isn't a Model 10. Those did not start shipping until 1958, and none of them had a five screw frame. The upper sideplate screw was eliminated in 1956. What you have is a .38 Military & Police revolver. In the days before 1958, S&W revolvers had model names only, not model numbers.
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The closest SN on my list to C164946 is C1659xx which shipped in 4/51. S&W did not provide wider "Target" triggers prior to about 1956, so many competitive shooters attached a trigger shoe to a standard factory trigger. It is not uncommon to see them on earlier target revolvers such as K-22s, K-38s, and Colt Officer's Model revolvers. Not so common to find shoes on more ordinary M&P revolvers. It may be stamped "Flaig's", as there was a Pennsylvania company of that name which catered to competitive rifle and pistol shooters, and they sold tons of trigger shoes. I have four guns with them.

Franzite grips were fairly popular back in the 1950s-60s, and there are apparently many who still like them. I have sold three pairs (with original boxes) I bought way back when for some pretty good money.

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What is the emblem in the grip?
It is a flying eagle with Franzite on the left.
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The closest SN on my list to C164946 is C1659xx which shipped in 4/51. S&W did not provide wider "Target" triggers prior to about 1956, so many competitive shooters attached a trigger shoe to a standard factory trigger. It is not uncommon to see them on earlier target revolvers such as K-22s, K-38s, and Colt Officer's Model revolvers. Not so common to find shoes on more ordinary M&P revolvers. It may be stamped "Flaig's", as there was a Pennsylvania company of that name which catered to competitive rifle and pistol shooters, and they sold tons of trigger shoes. I have four guns with them.

Franzite grips were fairly popular back in the 1950s-60s, and there are apparently many who still like them. I have sold three pairs (with original boxes) I bought way back when for some pretty good money.
Thanks for the info, and yes the shoe is indeed a Flaig ace.
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While cleaning this revolver, I noticed that the firing pin is loose, I can move it up and down just a bit. Is this normal or what?
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While cleaning this revolver, I noticed that the firing pin is loose, I can move it up and down just a bit. Is this normal or what?
That's totally normal.
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Thank you Muley Gil. Now I can go to the range and shoot it.
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