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04-03-2018, 11:46 AM
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Pre Victory grip question
I'm looking at a pre Victory in 38 S&W cal. 885xxx s/n range, 5" barrel, United States Property top strap, flaming bomb and WB on butt. A couple of oddities though, there are no British Commonwealth proof marks of any kind and it has the smooth Victory grips that are numbered to the revolver. Can someone shed a little light on this?
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04-03-2018, 11:51 AM
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Can be all good. A very early Lend-lease version of the British Service Revolver. The property stamping and the smooth stocks started around that time in the winter 1941/42, and if it all numbers to the gun, that is likely original.
Lend-lease guns did not receive any British property marks or service stamps. The absence of British post-war proofs just means it made its way into retirement and back over in some “unofficial” manner. Maybe a war bringback?
What kind of finish does it have?
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04-03-2018, 12:12 PM
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Can be all good. A very early Lend-lease version of the British Service Revolver. The property stamping and the smooth stocks started around that time in the winter 1941/42, and if it all numbers to the gun, that is likely original.
Lend-lease guns did not receive any British property marks or service stamps. The absence of British post-war proofs just means it made its way into retirement and back over in some “unofficial” manner. Maybe a war bringback?
What kind of finish does it have?
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Brushed blue. I'd like to thank you and the others on the forum who have been kind enough to share their knowledge with me.
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04-03-2018, 12:36 PM
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Brushed blue. I'd like to thank you and the others on the forum who have been kind enough to share their knowledge with me.
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Perfect. That’s the right finish, too
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04-03-2018, 12:51 PM
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Yes, you do have a lend lease revolver. The British insisted on 5" barrels in 38 S&W with a 200 grain projectile. Please note that .38 S&W is not .357" like .38 Special but instead, .361". Look closely and see if you can find a mark any where that's a D with an arrow on each side. If you find it, your revolver went to Australia. These show no British proof marks as do some from other parts of the Commonwealth.
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04-03-2018, 01:29 PM
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..Look closely and see if you can find a mark any where that's a D with an arrow on each side. If you find it, your revolver went to Australia....
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The Australian mark is actually the reverse, an arrow with a D on each side
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04-03-2018, 01:51 PM
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Chief:
The Australian mark is actually the reverse, an arrow with a D on each side
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I'm working off of pictures right now but neither the seller or I can find any stamps except what was mentioned in the original post.
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The British insisted on 5" barrels in 38 S&W with a 200 grain projectile.
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178 grain jacketed bullet. The 200 grain lead load was declared obsolescent in 1938.
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I'm working off of pictures right now but neither the seller or I can find any stamps except what was mentioned in the original post.
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Australian marks would be obvious, either the D^D or alternatively A^F quite prominently on the left frame, or a set of marks as on the attached photo on the right frame. There is no way you or the seller could miss those.
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