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Some beauts here, but a .22 LR N-frame, like in post #18 is something I have long lusted for.
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I don't know if it is thee best modification, but I will put in for the most modified.

A 1937 Brazilian, milled for adjustable sights, 357 cylinder reamed to 45 colt and cut for moon clips to fire 45 acp. grip frame reworked so I could fasten stock and get shape I wanted. 16 1/2" barrel installed. 2 lugs to hold fore stock and it has a frond lug for ejector rod. Still needs a trip through the blue tank.

That's impressive, but, I don't want to fire a round from that gun without a welders jacket on(LEATHER SLEEVES).
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I post this NM #3 Target all the time because I'm just in awe of it. And I'm not sure if it was made before or after 1896. But it was extensively modified in the 20's out of necessity, not cosmetically. To have a fine .22 target pistol. The most complicated feature is the cylinder and extractor system. The firing pin was repositioned and the barrel was lined with a .22 rifle barrel lathed down, visible extending at the muzzle. Machinist's grand son said it was originally .44 Russian.




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I'll put this up against any "practical mods" anyone has made. This is a 329PD I bought for backpacking. I often carried 300-gr hammerhead bullets in it, handloaded, or heavy-bullet ammo from Buffalo Bore, Cor Bon and Hornady.
I wanted to be able to use it in any light condition under any circumstances

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To handle recoil I installed Crimson Trace Laser Grips, that had the added benefit of an aiming device that can be used in otherwise total darkness.

It also had Mag-Na-Port Quad Ports to help with recoil. For doubters I still have an unmodified 329PD they can shoot side-by-side. They become believers.

I had a Big Dot tritium sight installed on the front, and tritium tubes in the Extreme Duty sight on the rear, the set adjusted for Cor Bon ammo at 50 feet. That serves in most low-light conditions, and are helpful in full daylight.

Then, a lanyard ring installed in the butt so I wouldn't lose the gun if I wound up rolling downhill and into a river. You can probably guess how THAT came about.

It's dirty and worn, as it should be for a working tool. Everything done to it was to increase utility and service. It works.
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This is a S&W 650 with the .22LR and .22 Magnum cylinders, two grips and tool set.

There are a lot of gorgeous guns in this thread, so I don't know how this will compare. But, it's mine. The only hand-engraved handgun I own. Turns out it is unique.

I saw it at a gun show. The seller said he knew nothing about the engraving, saying only vaguely that it was done by an engraver in central Wisconsin.

I did some hunting and found it was Brooks Burt, who does chisel engraving. He had some amazing examples of other things he engraved, especially knives. Guns are not among his favorite subjects.

He recognized the gun immediately and remembered the person who commissioned the work. I asked him what he would have charged for that and he said $1,000. I got a bargain. I asked him to sign it for me, and he did, with engraving.
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Hey, i build a good old smolth revolver from a mod 28-3, a 38-44 cylinder, colt python 4-ish” and melonite qpq finish

btw, color-fill white crayon sucks, dont mention it

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These in no way are going to win any prizes, but with the addendum about Rube Goldberg they immediately came to mind.

When I purchased these they were described in the sub 10 dollar ebay auction as "Machine Gun Handles".









I knew the basic shape was Round Butt S&W, but what they actually fit was kind of baffling. Until...








In the "gun modified by it's stocks" category I also have a set of Ropers which are pretty fun.





If sadly molested on the inside in weird ways:






One side of the "trigger thing" is slightly longer then the other:





So when you use these you sort of rest the pad of your finger on the left panel's trigger thingy, and just sort of flex your finger so the knuckle flexes inward and the gun goes off.

I have a catalog here with a maker of this device that you can attach. When I find it I can scan it in. I forget the name of it. In this case Roper incorporated it into this set.

The notion is to improve your trigger pull or something. In practice it's just dang weird and I can see why it didn't really go anywhere.
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Hey, i build a good old smolth revolver from a mod 28-3, a 38-44 cylinder, colt python 4-ish” and melonite qpq finish

btw, color-fill white crayon sucks, dont mention it

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Possibly the only part not modified/replaced on this 45 Colt pin gun is the donor 28-2 frame. The cylinder bas been bored and recessed to accommodate the larger round, 7.5"/1.05" dia. barrel, target hammer and smooth target trigger contoured for a left handed shooter. If the killer bowling pins attack Warsaw I may be the sole survivor.
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here is a 64-2 that began life as a sq butt 4". first I got bored and rounded the butt: then I cut the barrel to about 3" and made and installed the front sight. later on I got bored again and polished it a little. enjoy. lee
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I don't know if it is thee best modification, but I will put in for the most modified.

A 1937 Brazilian, milled for adjustable sights, 357 cylinder reamed to 45 colt and cut for moon clips to fire 45 acp. grip frame reworked so I could fasten stock and get shape I wanted. 16 1/2" barrel installed. 2 lugs to hold fore stock and it has a frond lug for ejector rod. Still needs a trip through the blue tank.

What's that got, 1/2 cylinder gap? Bullet will probably get lost on it's way to the barrel!
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What's that got, 1/2 cylinder gap? Bullet will probably get lost on it's way to the barrel!
I think you are seeing the barrel there, it's in the white or stainless?
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5" Model of 1950 ACP with a spare 45 Colt cylinder.

Both done by Keith44special.
Oh, sure! I knew you would bring that one out!
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Just a little barrel reduction, nothing serious here.

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Questions about my S&W dual carbine,

No it doesn't have a 1/2" B/C gap, its .005, Unblued barrel shank doesn't show up well in photo because of white background in frame window area is all.

No you don't need a welders jacket, although I do run a long sleeve shirt. Think about how you hold a fore stock, your elbow is dropped down and is under the frame itself and some distance from the gap. Gap blast has never bothered me one bit. Make a big tube.about 3" in diameter of construction paper or card board, stick a revolver in it and check out the blast pattern sometime. Nothing on the bottom 30 degree arc because of the bottom of frame blocking it.

Why a 45 colt/acp cylinder when it started as a 45acp?
A: because I could
B: because I love 45 colt and heavy slugs. White tail in the brush anyone?

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A 8 3/8 25-5 cut to 5" and fitted with a reamed 44 mag cylindeer to get a pinned and RECESSed
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Here is a 1917 with a chopped 1950 barrel, adjustable sights, round butt cut down grip frame and bobbed hammer. Shroud was relieved to retain big ejector knob

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Model 29 revolver converted to top break 1.50 CAL single shot 'Howdah' pistol with bright blue refinish for Tiger hunting in India (read with tongue in cheek).



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Here are two of mine. A 3” 60-3 with boot grips, bobbed dao hammer, a tuned action and dehorned. A 66-1 with Hogue desert ironwood grips, a bobbed dao hammer, a tuned action and magnaported.
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Well what did you expect when you are wavin' this one around?
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Three Fifty Seven / Forty Four Spl. / First year Registered Magnum




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There needs to be at least one Smython in the mix... So here's a Highway Patrolman N Frame Smython - very nicely done and Magna-Ported to boot:











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Was the Smython barrel relined? I'm leaning towards OutdoorLock (Keith44spl Outdoorsman/Triple Lock Hybrid) so far as Best of show!
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No. The Python Barrel has a significantly smaller outside diameter than the N-Frame barrel opening, so it looks like the gunsmith "collared" the Python Barrel to thread into the Highway Patrolman Frame. It is very well done.

I have to agree that the OutdoorsmanLock .44 Spl. is one of my very favorite guns of all of them that have been posted. It is a beauty in craftsmanship, creativity, function and appearance.
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What the ..........?!
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Aww, Dave's just showin' off!!

Got to admit that OutdoorsmanLock...Forty Four Special is one cool outfit though.
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Richard, This is not the first Smith/Colt hybrid I've ever seen. There is an old timer here in South Florida (get that, "me" calling someone else and old-timer") who was a LEO armorer who showed up at one of our short lived South Florida Bunch meetings.

Although not as meticulously finished as yours it was just a knee-jerk reacction that I shook my head in amazement. I still can't wrap my mind around "why". I also saw one other, years back. All that I've seen had Python barrels.

This retired LEO Armorer also created a few 52/39 cross-breeds. Like a Model 52 with an interchangeable 9mm extended upper and vice versa, a 52 upper on a 39-2 frame. He also had (on his cell phone) videos of the amazing accuracy of all of his creations. I cannot recall who that was but will look it up. I can say, if ever Isis boats start landing on the Florida shores, I'd want to be standing along side this guy. He shoots the black out of the x-ring at 50 feet. Allen-Frame and Engine49Guy know this gent better than I. I only met him twice.

Then the 29 Frame flare guns ... I've seen only a few of the original productions but nothing customized.
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Aww, Dave's just showin' off!!

Got to admit that OutdoorsmanLock...Forty Four Special is one cool outfit though.

LOL..........The 'Remuda' is kinda gettin thin around the camp here.

And one or two of 'em is on the block now.


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I would love to know the whole history behind this little revolver. I purchased it a year or so ago from David Carroll. Story was it was used at some point by a gentleman from Winchester Repeating Arms. The side plate is inscribed WRA Co Reed 4-20-17. I have no idea when the 'Fitz' treatment came along. The top lock was removed, the hammer bobbed and the trigger guard was modified. I thought it was too cool to let pass, and it has an anniversary of some kind in a day or two.
How does it lock???
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How does it lock???
Being a perfected it should have two locks, one with the regular cylinder release, and one with the lock on top.

Thing is I'd personally not want to shoot it missing the lock on top, that seems like a lot of the stress of shooting should be soaked up there...

Still super cool.
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Being a perfected it should have two locks, one with the regular cylinder release, and one with the lock on top.

Thing is I'd personally not want to shoot it missing the lock on top, that seems like a lot of the stress of shooting should be soaked up there...

Still super cool.
I was staring at the missing top latch and didn't see the cylinder latch.
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I would love to know the whole history behind this little revolver. I purchased it a year or so ago from David Carroll. Story was it was used at some point by a gentleman from Winchester Repeating Arms. The side plate is inscribed WRA Co Reed 4-20-17. I have no idea when the 'Fitz' treatment came along. The top lock was removed, the hammer bobbed and the trigger guard was modified. I thought it was too cool to let pass, and it has an anniversary of some kind in a day or two.
It appears the back half of the barrel lock latch has been cut off to speed the opening of the frame. The front half is still present to retain the rear sight.

The cyl pin still locks the frame closed, but as mentioned by others above, all the strain on the frame when fired transfers to the small diameter cyl ctr locking pin.

I believe a Top Break Model 38 DA barrel lock latch will be a drop in replacement.

.38 PERFECTED MODEL

Made from 1909 to 1920, serial # range 1 thru 59400, on the P frame. It has a .38 DA Top Break barrel and cylinder assembly but the same action and grip size concurrently used on the Model of 1903 32 Hand Ejector made on the I frame with a side swing cylinder.

The thumb latch in addition to the barrel latch takes two hands to open, and was designed to prevent a thug from reaching over the top of the gun, pulling the latch up and disabling the gun. S&W chose the Perfected name
to denote this model as the pinnacle of the top break design evolution, and back in the day, the term was a marketing fad word. Not unlike today's Smart word as in Smart Phone, etc.
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These in no way are going to win any prizes, but with the addendum about Rube Goldberg they immediately came to mind.

When I purchased these they were described in the sub 10 dollar ebay auction as "Machine Gun Handles".

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I knew the basic shape was Round Butt S&W, but what they actually fit was kind of baffling. Until...

One side of the "trigger thing" is slightly longer then the other:



So when you use these you sort of rest the pad of your finger on the left panel's trigger thingy, and just sort of flex your finger so the knuckle flexes inward and the gun goes off.

I have a catalog here with a maker of this device that you can attach. When I find it I can scan it in. I forget the name of it. In this case Roper incorporated it into this set.

The notion is to improve your trigger pull or something. In practice it's just dang weird and I can see why it didn't really go anywhere.
That Odd 1st Model .44 DA "HANDLE" is surely unusual, at very least. Surely bouncing off the Rube orbit, there.

But those Ropers ... they have to be "the" nicest and most unique set of Roper's I've seen in a long time. Congrats on that find.
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Okay here goes my entry. This is a Model 29-2 that had the action worked over by Magnaport, ports cut and a crane lock installed. Then I had it engraved by Weldon Lister. The sword on the right is taken from a logo from my security business. Had electroless nickel applied. Has a set of Roy Fishpaw grips. Next was carried while I was still a narcotics agent.

I need help to get someone to post the pics for me.
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I humbly submit for your consideration a modified S&W M64-5 which had been upgraded out of necessity--the previous owner had dropped the revolver on to a hard surface. Fortunately, the crown and muzzle were not damaged, although the front sight was DOA. I purchased the revolver, found a local custom shop which offered to mill off the front sight and replace with a pinned patridge sight of identical height of the original.
He found dove-tailing the front sight gave it a better appearance, and when I saw the finished product, I totally agreed. The yellow sighting dot is NOT tritium, but simple yellow paint.
I consider it a significant upgrade from the original fixed front sight, yet simple in the execution.
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Here's my entry, a .38 cal, pre model 10 square butt HE that I re-rebarreled, Fitzed, bobbed and parkerized. It's got a really great trigger. Before anyone gets upset, it had been rebarreled before I got it. It's also got a few pits where the larger grips covered the frame.
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I like turning some of my guns into non-factory Pintos. My most recent is the 29-2 with 4 inch barrel put together by a master gunsmith. I am fortunate to be surrounded by several guys that have been working on S&W's for longer than I have been alive.


29-2 SN#N170000ish with Culina Grips


29-2 SN#N720,000ish with Culina grips later modified by me to fit my hand. I had it drilled and tapped for a scope mount and stuck a cheap reflex red dot sight on it. Hard to miss with this one.


14-3 Early 80's gun with 8 3/8in barrel I grabbed off e-bay with a red post factory installed front sight.


Pre-36 that has a rough blue finish with what I believe are factory maple J frame grips that I snagged off e-bay a few months ago.
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I built this beast in 1976 as a hunting revolver. I had a beat up old 28 laying around and a spare 29 cylinder. The barrel was made from a Douglas blank and is 7.5 " long. It has interchangeable front sights and a front cyl pin lock up. It shoots extremely well and has taken a number of big game critters.
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