Just bought these mystery stocks and would love to hear some opinions!

They have some pretty unique features and look to possibly be Cloyce or maybe Herrett. To be honest I’m not even sure what frame size they fit.

I can upload more pictures once I have them but this should do for now.

I don't think they are Herretts.

Don't look anything like Herrett's to me either.

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Can you show pictures of the back side?

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I don't know anything about Cloyce, but they don't look like any Herretts I've seen.
Kinda neat looking.
I also noticed they are left-handed...

Very Cloyce like. Let's see the backside, is there a hole in the top center of the frame inletting?

Left hand Cloyce/Cascade "closed back Trooper with thumb rest and finger grooves".

See plate #17 in this catalog post: http://smith-wessonforum.com/138700494-post2.html

They appear to have a coat of tru-oil or varnish on them. Cloyce Edwards advertised that he used a hand-rubbed oil finish.

If you can't view the catalog photos, download this free app from the Chrome store: Photobucket Embedded Image Fix

They also have a version for Firefox.

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Interesting that Cloyce and Herrett's came from the same town, Twin Falls, ID.

Stu

According to info in the catalog thread, Cloyce Edwards worked for Steve Herrett before starting his own company.

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Gents,

I have limited pictures but there is an I letting hole at the top of the stock. They might be refinished and I’m not really a huge fan of the varnish so I would bring them back to original.

I have limited pictures but this should work...

Absolutely Cloyce, and one of the more feature rich of his sets. For a lefty they should be a dream, if they were for a right hander I would have owned them.

He made some really great stocks. I'm more and more impressed by him and I'd say that for any good 1960s S&W I would prefer his stocks over anyone elses.

Very nice purchase, except for that finish, which you can remove and oil to put them back to right, they will be nicer when you do.

Those look sweet. My guess is K Frame.

Well the good news is I am left handed.

I was pretty impressed as well with the features which is why I bought without knowing 100% who made them. I should have them in hand this weekend and will snap some more pictures before I get to refinishing them.

The seller's other photos show that the finish isn't nearly as bad as the photo in the OP makes it look. I suspect it's the original finish in no need of a fix or refinish. Nice grips.

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I have a set of Cloyce, and I think they have the original finish on them:







I have a few other sets that seem to have the same oil finish, and one that has a similar varnish. But that one also has a police shield embedded in it, not sure if Cloyce did that or someone did it at a later time.

I like the oil finish a whole lot more. Depending on how these look when they show up I will probably be heading down that route.




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They showed up yesterday and are definitely K frame. The finish has a varnish like shine to it, is it sacrilege to strip them and refinish?

I do have to say that the quality is very good and are some of the most comfortable stocks I have owned.

.... now what am I going to put them on





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They look very nice to me. They don't appear as shiny as in the first pictures.
If you don't like the shine, you can use very fine steel wool and just drag it across the surface with very little pressure to take the shine away.

Don't think they are either Herrett or Cloyce. At fist glance I thought "Sile" and Sile did make some that were more ornate but I don't think Sile either.

>>> added later: I never saw that Cloyce chart Chad posted. ! I stand corrected. The incomplete checkering and uneveness of it (in the first post photo) and the gloss made me think foreign.

It's obvious, whomever the maker, they were trading off of a Roper style but even High Standard produced Roperesque style stocksin the 1950s and 1960s as well as stippling style HS ripped off directly from John Giles. More than once I had been offered stocks promoted as "Ropers" that were clearly NOT Ropers because of a similar pattern.

Back in the 1970s aftermarket stocks were being imported from India, some marked Made in India printed, some with peel off labels and some not marked at all. Most were not this nice but others were fairly impressive. Now they come from Thailand, China, Turkey and other Countries. The guys at KDS are producing stocks to rival Nill-Griffe (kn) stocks.

I don't think these are "that" old. They may even be a newer set from Thailand or some other place in the Asian area.

They have that look that appear imported from somewhere.

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I've been going back through some older posts here and I noticed this post. I've clipped the relevant bit, and added emphasis.

The reason I wanted to comment on this is because this observation is, in my opinion, diagnostic of Cloyce's work. I find that a big part of my attraction to his stocks is that he was clearly influenced by Roper, but didn't try to copy Gagne's work.

I can't think of any other maker that does something like Ropers, without outright attempting to copy them. There are some modern makers who make a decent looking facsimile of Ropers, but that's all they are. The only modern maker (in my personal handling experience) that actually understands them well enough to incorporate the real Roper features is Keith Brown. Honestly, if Keith had been operating in the 1950s we would probably all be really confused about these more precisely checkered Ropers that cropped up.