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Grabbed a cheap registered magnum the other day. I have to say I am in love. I do have one question though; should the stocks be numbered to it? There are no numbers at all in them, not even pencil.










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Should get the letters off by tomorrow. I keep forgetting to letter that NRM with the Kearsarge stocks on it. This new RM is the kick in the pants I need to get it done though.

I'm also going to have to sort out a much better arrangement for taking photographs. I'm not as happy with these now that I don't have a greenhouse to take them in. I guess I was kind of cheating with all that bright diffuse light before.
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I knew there was a reason I couldn’t find an RM! You have three of them.

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I believe the stocks should be numbered to the revolver. An early gun like yours may have had the grip adapter attached (or not).

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A thousand, plus 25 shipping.

Not as cheap as that one on top (that one ran me $150, but was missing a rear sight, I had to spend another $150 on the sight), but still, cheap enough that even though I shouldn't be buying guns I had to buy this one.

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I believe the stocks should be numbered to the revolver. An early gun like yours may have had the grip adapter attached (or not).

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I thought as much. I guess we will have to see how it letters out.

I can't complain, although I did find it odd that there was no number at all on the back of them.
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Where do you find this stuff! Very nice!
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Congrats!! Picking up another RM turns an ordinary day into an exceptional day!!!
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I bet he found it next to Forest Fenn's box of stuff.
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A thousand, plus 25 shipping.

Not as cheap as that one on top (that one ran me $150, but was missing a rear sight, I had to spend another $150 on the sight), but still, cheap enough that even though I shouldn't be buying guns I had to buy this one.



I thought as much. I guess we will have to see how it letters out.

I can't complain, although I did find it odd that there was no number at all on the back of them.
I have a 1905 Target that has no numbers on the grips. I think since they were penciled on in those days it was possible the pencil could get rubbed off if the grips were removed for cleaning.
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When I am stressed or bummed out for some reason I cheer myself up by obsessively checking every corner of the internet for guns. There's a dozen auction sites to run through looking for deals.

Thing is, the only way to catch deals like this is to find things that are mis-labeled. This one for example was labeled; .357 Hand Ejector. Plus, you have to be willing to gamble. Usually the good deals are had on guns with bad pictures.

It's laborious and tedious, but in a way the past time is actually the looking, not so much the finding. The finding lately (since I have a baby on the way in august and things are financially precarious due to a move), has been...annoying.

On the other hand a lot of my friends have been getting killer deals on cool stuff that I pass along to them. I'm kind of jealous of a lot of what they have now, but truth be told I'm also happy they got the deals they did, and have the cool guns they do.
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When I am stressed or bummed out for some reason I cheer myself up by obsessively checking every corner of the internet for guns. There's a dozen auction sites to run through looking for deals.

Thing is, the only way to catch deals like this is to find things that are mis-labeled. This one for example was labeled; .357 Hand Ejector. Plus, you have to be willing to gamble. Usually the good deals are had on guns with bad pictures.

It's laborious and tedious, but in a way the past time is actually the looking, not so much the finding. The finding lately (since I have a baby on the way in august and things are financially precarious due to a move), has been...annoying.

On the other hand a lot of my friends have been getting killer deals on cool stuff that I pass along to them. I'm kind of jealous of a lot of what they have now, but truth be told I'm also happy they got the deals they did, and have the cool guns they do.


I need to expand my horizons and quit checking the same sites! Enjoy that RM!


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When I am stressed or bummed out for some reason I cheer myself up by obsessively checking every corner of the internet for guns. There's a dozen auction sites to run through looking for deals.

Thing is, the only way to catch deals like this is to find things that are mis-labeled. This one for example was labeled; .357 Hand Ejector. Plus, you have to be willing to gamble. Usually the good deals are had on guns with bad pictures.

It's laborious and tedious, but in a way the past time is actually the looking, not so much the finding. The finding lately (since I have a baby on the way in august and things are financially precarious due to a move), has been...annoying.

On the other hand a lot of my friends have been getting killer deals on cool stuff that I pass along to them. I'm kind of jealous of a lot of what they have now, but truth be told I'm also happy they got the deals they did, and have the cool guns they do.
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A buddy of mine just bought a 300 dollar pre-war 2" M&P I pointed out to him. Like, 3 minutes ago. It has the wrong stocks, and has been carried for the last 50 years by the looks of it, but it came with the holster, and still has a lot of blue. I'll be very curious to see better pictures of it when he gets it in hand.

Again, I keep saying this, but man alive is it a good time to buy old S&Ws right now. No idea why, but they are really coming out of the woodwork.
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The serial number would be STAMPED on the inside of the RH panel--------IF the grips were FIT/ATTACHED to the gun. IF the gun was shipped with grip adapter ATTACHED, on the other hand, they would not be numbered. And that of course is because of the undeniable fact the ORIGINAL grips were not ATTACHED to the gun, but to the grip adapter----which WAS attached to the gun (but not fit to the gun). Given no need to fit the grips, there was no need to number them---right? RIGHT!!

Now, should some skeptical soul call for proof of the foregoing, we're plumb out of luck; for I fear no such proof will be forthcoming----but it makes sense. Here's why: I have a revolver shipped "with grip adapter attached". (Alas, there was no grip adapter attached when I got it, but I came up with one in short order.) What was "attached" to the interior of the grip panels was nothing---which is to say the "stain" (for lack of a better word) following the outline of the grip frame typically found on the interior of any/all older revolver grips wasn't there. The interior of the grips looked like they'd just come from the Parts Department. So what's up with that?!! It took a little spell of sittin' and starin', but I decided there was no stain because the grips hadn't been attached to the gun (for very long at any rate)----they'd been attached to the grip adapter---and were about to be attached to a grip adapter again.

So---does my experience with exactly one gun make for a statistically valid sample? Not hardly!! But it makes sense.

So, back to the case at hand: We'll know some more worth knowing when your letter arrives-------and then the guessing games can continue----or not. In the meantime, what do the inside of your grips look like-----stained as usual, stained some/a little, but not 80 years worth, or what? Also in the meantime, does anybody have an RM shipped with grip adapter attached, and is it still attached? And is the grip adapter FIT to the grip frame (and numbered)? And are the grips fit to the adapter (and numbered)? I ask these questions because they too make sense----given a "custom, made to order" gun. My gun, on the other hand is not an RM; but it's one given to a famous person---one to whom S&W owed a debt of gratitude, and one with whom S&W also wished to curry favor---so it makes sense they might very well make the extra effort with that gun----same as they might have done with an RM. As it happened, no such extra effort was made on my gun---which is to say (again) the adapter was not fit to the grip frame, and the grips (assuming they're original) were not fit to anything.

And the beat goes on!!

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The serial number would be STAMPED on the inside of the RH panel--------IF the grips were FIT/ATTACHED to the gun. IF the gun was shipped with grip adapter ATTACHED, on the other hand, they would not be numbered. And that of course is because of the undeniable fact the ORIGINAL grips were not ATTACHED to the gun, but to the grip adapter----which WAS attached to the gun (but not fit to the gun). Given no need to fit the grips, there was no need to number them---right? RIGHT!!

Now, should some skeptical soul call for proof of the foregoing, we're plumb out of luck; for I fear no such proof will be forthcoming----but it makes sense. Here's why: I have a revolver shipped "with grip adapter attached". (Alas, there was no grip adapter attached, but I came up with one in short order.) What was "attached" to the interior of the grip panels was nothing---which is to say the "stain" (for lack of a better word) following the outline of the grip frame typically found on the interior of any/all older revolver grips wasn't there. The interior of the grips looked like they'd just come from the Parts Department. So what's up with that?!! It took a little spell of sittin' and starin', but I decided there was no stain because the grips hadn't been attached to the gun (for very long at any rate)----they'd been attached to the grip adapter---and were about to be attached to the grip adapter again.

So---does my experience with exactly one gun make for a statistically valid sample? Not hardly!! But it makes sense.

So, back to the case at hand: We'll know some more worth knowing when your letter arrives-------and then the guessing games can continue----or not. In the meantime, what do the inside of your grips look like-----stained as usual, stained some/a little, but not 80 years worth, or what? Also in the meantime, does anybody have an RM shipped with grip adapter attached, and is it still attached? And is the grip adapter FIT to the grip frame (and numbered)? And are the grips fit to the adapter (and numbered)? I ask these questions because they too make sense----given a "custom, made to order" gun. My gun, on the other hand is not an RM; but it's one given to a famous person---one to whom S&W owed a debt of gratitude, and one with whom S&W also wished to curry favor---so it makes sense they might very well make the extra effort that gun----same as they might have done with an RM.

And the beat goes on!!

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We will see when the letter arrives, but I won't be even slightly surprised if you are right.

However, the inside of them is pretty stained, little bit of corrosion, oil, etc. I would wager that you are right, but, whoever had this gun decided very quickly they didn't care for the adapter and took it off almost right away.
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"grabbed a cheap registered magnum the other day"
I have to say that I have never seen those words in the same sentence before.
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SGS is a gun deal magnet. I have marveled at the guns he finds for years. Strumpet, I offer you two words that will put a 2 a.m. kink in your accumulation efforts...wah! wah!
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I have to say that I have never seen those words in the same sentence before.
Well, it all depends on the definition of "cheap"----and that pesky time frame. Very recently here, someone asked what it was like 20-30 years ago---"it" being this dubious activity in which we're all engaged---to one degree or another.

So------it's the mid '90's. There's an internet of sorts, maybe. I for one don't know anything about it, because I'd had an expert and devoted staff who deemed it proper that I be spared such irritants earlier, when the rest of the world was learning "computer". At the point in time when my employer decided it was time to enter the computer age, and installed computers in all offices and work stations, my lead secretary had the computer removed from my office the day after it was installed. I was probably in, or about to be in an airplane on my way to or from somewhere---and never even saw the computer. So, while the rest of the folks were learning/using computer, I was "protected". It seemed like a good idea at the time. Now----maybe not so much.

At any rate, I shopped for guns with The Gun List back then---a weekly classified advertising newspaper of sorts. It arrived one day, and I spied a 6" 2nd Model Single Shot ($700)---and almost wet my pants!! I was on the phone instantly!! "Oh Honey!", the nice lady said; "That's been gone for a week or more." I'm at once shattered---and more than a little bumfuzzled. How the hell can that gun be gone for a week or more, when I just got my paper? Come to find out, I hadn't been paying close enough attention to my shopping aid---which could be had by "Next Day Air", for a measly couple of hundred dollars a year. Shortly thereafter, my copy of The Gun List arrived in my office every Friday morning at 10:00---and my schedule had miraculously been adjusted such that I was almost always IN my office at 10:00 every Friday morning---and if you were to call, a nice lady would tell you Mr. Tremaine was not available at the moment--and would return the call later that afternoon. And so it was that I collected neat old S&W target guns.

Now I didn't consider 357's to be target guns----target grade certainly, but no serious competitor in their right mind would select one for use in a match. That said, I also figured everybody should have at least one Registered Magnum---simply because of their historical significance. Now I'd had a few, but they weren't SPECIAL-------REALLY SPIFFY. And here, staring out at me from the pages of The Gun List was an 8 3/4" RM---described as AS NEW. The price was $2,300----high for the times----but AS NEW. I was on the phone more or less instantly. The seller was flabbergasted---noting the ad was just published the day before---and he didn't expect any calls for a week or more. I was a happy camper!! He was not inclined to reduce his price----noting I was the first of what he supposed would be many calls. I was not surprised, and paid the $2,300. I kept the gun around for a spell, in spite of the fact it didn't even look like a target gun (barrel's too long, and it carried a Marble bead front sight----pretty much like your very first .22 single shot rifle when you were 12 or so). I traded it for one that looked like a target gun several years later----traded with Ray Cheely---Mr. Registered Magnum to those of you who require an introduction. He was attracted to my rifle sighted version because "I've been looking for one with sights like that.". Now you know right off that anyone who's been "looking for one with sights like that" has a BUNCH of them---maybe too many even---if there is such a thing. Suffice it to say he was "THE MAN". If he needs any further recommendation, note he and Dave Ballantyne were those selected by the authors of SCSW-4 to write the introduction to the 357 Magnum section.

So------my one and only RM came from good stock, is as new (as were most all of Ray's)---and cost $2,300---20 or 30 years ago. (And just to add insult to injury, it's wearing the most drop-dead-gorgous and elaborately checkered and finished pair of Roper thumbrest targets you have ever seen. They came on an as new Outdoorsman (maybe $1,100)----20 or 30 years ago).

Now you know about "cheap" AND the "good old days". Almost makes you cry, doesn't it?

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A thousand, plus 25 shipping.

Not as cheap as that one on top (that one ran me $150, but was missing a rear sight, I had to spend another $150 on the sight), but still, cheap enough that even though I shouldn't be buying guns I had to buy this one.



I thought as much. I guess we will have to see how it letters out.

I can't complain, although I did find it odd that there was no number at all on the back of them.
Not that it should be anyone's business what another collector pays but last time I found one that cheap was $1100.00 in 1995.

PS: when Ray Cheely and Gary Garbrecht (RIP both) owned 50% of the available RMs ever made it was tough to find a RM in ANY condition.
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The non RMs did not come with the paperwork required to register them. The Kansas City PD guns are non RMs.
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This forum is a wealth of knowledge, I'd have a read through this if you have a chance: What Is A Registered Magnum
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That is an awesome little group of RMs- thanks for sharing
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I bought a nickel-plated TL with target sights the other day for 125.00 too!
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When I am stressed or bummed out for some reason I cheer myself up by obsessively checking every corner of the internet for guns. There's a dozen auction sites to run through looking for deals.

Thing is, the only way to catch deals like this is to find things that are mis-labeled. This one for example was labeled; .357 Hand Ejector. Plus, you have to be willing to gamble. Usually the good deals are had on guns with bad pictures.

It's laborious and tedious, but in a way the past time is actually the looking, not so much the finding. The finding lately (since I have a baby on the way in august and things are financially precarious due to a move), has been...annoying.

On the other hand a lot of my friends have been getting killer deals on cool stuff that I pass along to them. I'm kind of jealous of a lot of what they have now, but truth be told I'm also happy they got the deals they did, and have the cool guns they do.
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Whoa! Where, how, etc & etc.?????

PLEASE start a new thread and provide details and lots of photographs.
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A Registered Magnum is identified by the fact it has a registration number stamped on it--------as was the case from the get-go. RM's (as such) came to an end shortly after Harold Wesson issued a directive to discontinue the use/stamping of registration numbers (October 16, 1939). At the same time, the barrel lengths were standardized at 3 1/2, 5, 6, 6 1/2, and 8 3/8"---no more pick and choose. Actually, there still was "pick and choose", but it cost extra.

5,224 RM's were produced. 1,418 Non-RM's were produced. 180 registered frames were never used, accounting for the discrepancy between registration numbers listed and RM's sold.

These words of wisdom come to you from Roy Jinks by way of me (this time) or anybody else who possesses a copy of Jinks' late 80's treatise on RM's titled "The Revolver that Changed the Direction of Handgunning". Let me suggest that ANY information concerning RM's emanating from ANY other source be viewed with a healthy measure of caution/skepticism. There are myriad tales from both old and young wives which have grown up to create an undeserved/unwarranted mystique about these guns. I view them as tracking with the definition of the oft used phrase "New and Improved", which I choose to define as NOT YET PROVEN TO BE DEFECTIVE. In other words if Jinks says it's so, it's so---otherwise, watch out!!

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Grabbed a cheap registered magnum the other day. I have to say I am in love. I do have one question though; should the stocks be numbered to it? There are no numbers at all in them, not even pencil.

I'm also going to have to sort out a much better arrangement for taking photographs. I'm not as happy with these now that I don't have a greenhouse to take them in. I guess I was kind of cheating with all that bright diffuse light before.
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The serial number would be STAMPED on the inside of the RH panel--------IF the grips were FIT/ATTACHED to the gun. IF the gun was shipped with grip adapter ATTACHED, on the other hand, they would not be numbered. And that of course is because of the undeniable fact the ORIGINAL grips were not ATTACHED to the gun, but to the grip adapter----which WAS attached to the gun (but not fit to the gun). Given no need to fit the grips, there was no need to number them---right? RIGHT!!

Now, should some skeptical soul call for proof of the foregoing, we're plumb out of luck; for I fear no such proof will be forthcoming----but it makes sense. Here's why: I have a revolver shipped "with grip adapter attached". (Alas, there was no grip adapter attached when I got it, but I came up with one in short order.) What was "attached" to the interior of the grip panels was nothing---which is to say the "stain" (for lack of a better word) following the outline of the grip frame typically found on the interior of any/all older revolver grips wasn't there. The interior of the grips looked like they'd just come from the Parts Department. So what's up with that?!! It took a little spell of sittin' and starin', but I decided there was no stain because the grips hadn't been attached to the gun (for very long at any rate)----they'd been attached to the grip adapter---and were about to be attached to a grip adapter again.

So---does my experience with exactly one gun make for a statistically valid sample? Not hardly!! But it makes sense.

So, back to the case at hand: We'll know some more worth knowing when your letter arrives-------and then the guessing games can continue----or not. In the meantime, what do the inside of your grips look like-----stained as usual, stained some/a little, but not 80 years worth, or what? Also in the meantime, does anybody have an RM shipped with grip adapter attached, and is it still attached? And is the grip adapter FIT to the grip frame (and numbered)? And are the grips fit to the adapter (and numbered)? I ask these questions because they too make sense----given a "custom, made to order" gun. My gun, on the other hand is not an RM; but it's one given to a famous person---one to whom S&W owed a debt of gratitude, and one with whom S&W also wished to curry favor---so it makes sense they might very well make the extra effort with that gun----same as they might have done with an RM. As it happened, no such extra effort was made on my gun---which is to say (again) the adapter was not fit to the grip frame, and the grips (assuming they're original) were not fit to anything.

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I bought these N frame grips and grip adapter at a recent gun show from a guy that mostly sells modern aftermarket and reproduction grips. The seller may be affiliated with Altamont or have some kind of relationship with them. This seller will take trade-ins, and some uneducated customers will trade in their original vintage grips to offset some of the cost of the reproduction grips they want for their guns.

I assume that is where the grips and adapter pictured above came from. The seller said that he got them together and I didn't ask too many questions because the price was right. The grips are numbered 54158 and are like new inside and out and there is no staining from touching the inside of a grip frame. This makes me think the grips and grip adapter came together on a gun. The grip adapter is oversized compared to the grips. If you look closely you can see it on the picture below of the grips and adapter mounted on my Reg Mag:

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The combined facts the grips are numbered, and clean (unstained backside) tells me the grips were fit to their gun----and then spent the vast majority of their life attached to a grip adapter. It is my understanding all RM's shipped with standard grips included a grip adapter. Whether it was attached (by/at the factory) or not would be dependent upon the buyer's wishes stated on the RM order form.

My whole point is ANY gun, RM or whatever, ordered to be shipped with GA attached, is not going to have its grips fit to the gun (and accordingly there is no need to number them). My belief is based upon another belief that neither S&W nor anybody else engaged in a venture for profit is going to spend any time/money on unnecessary production activity. NOTHING is going to be done if it doesn't NEED to be done----never mind whether we usually do it or not.

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... you guys have got me wondering about my nicest RM








... it shipped with a Grip Adapter, but I cannot remember if it shipped with it attached or if the grip panels number to the gun? I will have to check it when I get home
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Ralph, I beg to differ. I believe the grips were fitted to the gun and numbered. Remember this was done before final finish. At that time service dept might not know whether GA would be attached or not. Mine (only 2#s away from the one above) are numbered. The grips would have been fitted so the customer could use them with or without the GA. SO far no S&WHF letters have been found with customers complaining "I took the GA off and the grips don't fit right" LOL Maybe a plausible explanation for the unnumbered grips is they were replaced (damage to originals), or it was simply ordered as an accessory, or somebody forgot to # them. If these danged things could only talk, they could do lots of 'splainin'
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Ralph, I beg to differ. I believe the grips were fitted to the gun and numbered. Remember this was done before final finish. At that time service dept might not know whether GA would be attached or not. Mine (only 2#s away from the one above) are numbered. The grips would have been fitted so the customer could use them with or without the GA. SO far no S&WHF letters have been found with customers complaining "I took the GA off and the grips don't fit right" LOL Maybe a plausible explanation for the unnumbered grips is they were replaced (damage to originals), or it was simply ordered as an accessory, or somebody forgot to # them. If these danged things could only talk, they could do lots of 'splainin'
In either case I'm kind of glad they don't number because that's an excuse to take them off (label them as to where they came from when I tuck them away) and add Ropers.
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It is my understanding all RM's shipped with standard grips included a grip adapter.

... NOTHING is going to be done if it doesn't NEED to be done----never mind whether we usually do it or not.
I didn't know all Reg Mags with service grips included a grip adapter, even if the customer didn't order one.
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I bought a nickel-plated TL with target sights the other day for 125.00 too!
I await this thread--I hope it's true!

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You "liked" my post without commenting, so it must indeed be sarcasm.

I am probably more disappointed to discover this to be the case than you are!
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.......an excuse to take them off....... and add Ropers.
Loving Registered Magnums means NEVER having to say you're sorry for adding ROPERS!!

Maybe it letters with Ropers and they bought the GA as an accessory. Letter and S&WHF docments will hopefully tell the tale. Good Luck!
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I await this thread--I hope it's true!
If it helps I have an older thread on here somewhere about my first registered magnum, the one without the finish, it wasn't $125, the guy wanted a whole $25 more than that.

That may entertain you if you haven't read it, I learned a huge amount from the fine folks on this forum during my search for a rear sight for it.

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I didn't know all Reg Mags with service grips included a grip adapter, even if the customer didn't order one.
The early (before Magna grips) order form included the line "I wish to recieve the arm with the Wesson Grip Adapter (Attached) (UnAttached)"
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Ralph, I beg to differ. I believe the grips were fitted to the gun and numbered. Remember this was done before final finish. At that time service dept might not know whether GA would be attached or not. Mine (only 2#s away from the one above) are numbered. The grips would have been fitted so the customer could use them with or without the GA. SO far no S&WHF letters have been found with customers complaining "I took the GA off and the grips don't fit right" LOL Maybe a plausible explanation for the unnumbered grips is they were replaced (damage to originals), or it was simply ordered as an accessory, or somebody forgot to # them. If these danged things could only talk, they could do lots of 'splainin'
Differing is not a problem---I was (perhaps less than clearly) stating an opinion.

And far as who would know what when, the entirety of the production of an RM started with the receipt of the RM order form---at which time any and everybody involved knew perzactly what was to be what-----start to finish.

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I didn't know all Reg Mags with service grips included a grip adapter, even if the customer didn't order one.
The only grip adapter option presented to the customers on the order form was whether they wanted the grip adapter attached or unattached. That said, it applies to the order form used prior to the availability of the Magna grips. I have never owned an RM initially ordered with Magna's, so I don't know diddly about that form. I imagine the later form presented the earlier option if standard stocks were selected (GA attached or unattached)---or Magna's (w/o GA).

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The first order form had (only) the option of the grip adapter attached or unattached. RMs ordered near the end of 1935 and very early in 1936 had Magna Stock typed or handwritten on the form and by February 1936 the form was updated to include Magna stocks as an option (that most customers ordered) with the statement the grip adapter is not supplied with the Magna stock.

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In support of Ralph's and Bill's posts above, "THE S. & W. ".357" MAGNUM", an 8-page pre-war brochure included the order forms on the last page. There were several versions of this brochure (I have examples of three different versions, one of which is the later version in Spanish). As I think it adds to the grip adapter discussion, here are a few scans of the relevant brochures:

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I bought a nickel-plated TL with target sights the other day for 125.00 too!
Well, I fell for this hook, line and sinker! All I saw was a Triple Lock was had for $125, target or otherwise. I totally missed the part about this being nickel as well, or maybe in my excitement, I just forgot that a target model nickel Triple Lock is almost an impossibility. I think the latest consensus is that one or two were produced.

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... it shipped with a Grip Adapter, but I cannot remember if it shipped with it attached or if the grip panels number to the gun? I will have to check it when I get home
I checked the grips - they do number to the gun. They have no wear on the back sides. They fit the frame perfectly without the grip adapter attached. And the gun letters as being shipped "... with the grip adapter attached."



... so, this "huge" sample of one would suggest that the grips were fit to the specific gun, were numbered to the specific gun they were fit to, even when they shipped on a gun with the grip adapter attached. BUT as is often said, with S&W almost anything is possible.
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S&W's manufacturing process was to fit stocks to the grip frame and number them. I see no reason that would have been changed because attachment of a grip adapter was an option that may or may not have been requested by a customer.

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Here's the one my RM was ordered with. Ordered in 1938 and doesn't show the Magna option. Interesting.

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bwdilli...Your RM was ordered using a form that had been replaced a couple of years earlier. Not surprising to see older forms used to order guns after early 1936. I assume the 44 special grip written on the from is referring to Magna stocks, but there is no way to know for certain.

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I wonder if Marshal Mcalister had ever fired a 3 1/2" .357 with "the highest powered ammunition made for it" ?
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