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Anybody need 1899 parts?
Found this old 1899 in 38 special. Its in pretty rough shape. Been refinished (maybe more than once) and most of the roll marks have been completely buffed off, trigger blued, possible replacement hammer (nickel?). Lock up is a little sloppy but timing seems pretty good. Unfortunately the bore looks like a sewer pipe - some of the lands and grooves are literally corroded away in spots. Cylinder looks pretty good. The barrel has been cut down to ~4" - originally probably 6" based on the location of the faint rollmarks and patent dates near the muzzle where the sight blade would be - if it had a sight blade. Still has the ejector rod knob though, and the grips are worn but not broken. DA and SA both function mechanically as does the cylinder latch & yoke, so the internals all seem usable. Possibly a first model year gun - serial number 24xx.
Is this thing worth anything more than a just few bucks for parts? Anybody need any of the parts (besides the obvious ejector rod knob)?
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A couple of more photos - serial number on the butt and the patent roll marks on the top of the barrel (sorry for the lousy cell phone pics).
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I’d rebarrel it...
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05-22-2018, 09:02 PM
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Where would you find a barrel for it? And would it be worth the time and expense (or time and effort if I figured out how to do it myself)?
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Found this old 1899 in 38 special. Its in pretty rough shape. Been refinished (maybe more than once) and most of the roll marks have been completely buffed off, trigger blued, possible replacement hammer (nickel?). Lock up is a little sloppy but timing seems pretty good. Unfortunately the bore looks like a sewer pipe - some of the lands and grooves are literally corroded away in spots. Cylinder looks pretty good. The barrel has been cut down to ~4" - originally probably 6" based on the location of the faint rollmarks and patent dates near the muzzle where the sight blade would be - if it had a sight blade. Still has the ejector rod knob though, and the grips are worn but not broken. Possibly a first model year gun - serial number 24xx.
Is this thing worth anything more than a just few bucks for parts?
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If you buy it and decide to part it out, I'd like to buy the ejector rod knob.
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Not sure I would take it if it was free. Definitely a parts gun. Not worth putting any money into it.
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Quite "melted".
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If you buy it and decide to part it out, I'd like to buy the ejector rod knob.
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One vote for buying it - sorta'.
Sent you an email...
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Not sure I would take it if it was free. Definitely a parts gun. Not worth putting any money into it.
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One vote against. Thanks.
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Another one of those project guns!
Yes it can be 'brought back'. The current condition is not all that bad that it can't be restored.
Don't know about orig bbls for these. I suspect they are rather rare to find loose just sitting around.
A reworked later K frame perhaps could be used if the threads are the same but I don't know that. There's a couple other ways to get there too.
Correct markings would have to be reapplied by hand engraving as would any markings on the rest of the piece after polishing.
How much work can you do yourself.
It wouldn't be worth it to have to pay someone to have it done if you have thoughts of a profit from the venture,,unless I'm missing something in the collectors value of these.
It can be done, doesn't mean it's profitable to have it done.
It means just that, if you have the knowledge and skill, you can do it,,and if you like to do this sort of work,,there's an excellent piece to start with.
Better to put the hours into one of these than a Lorcin water rescue example.
Buy it for parts,,buy it cheap. After the 2 or 3 most valuable parts are gone that seem to be in demand, the rest of the refinished and worn widgets will sit in a cigar box on a shelf till you forget they are even there.
Priced right,,I'd buy it with either idea in mind.
But I have a weakness for projects. A room full of them is proof of it.
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Where would you find a barrel for it? And would it be worth the time and expense (or time and effort if I figured out how to do it myself)?
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I have a 5" target barrel
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I just sent you an email.
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[I]f you decide to part it out I would like to purchase the cylinder stop assembly
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[I]f you decide to part it out I would like to purchase the cylinder stop assembly
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I sent you a PM.
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I would be interested in the side plate screws.
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Anybody else looking for parts? Parts spoken for are
Ejector rod knob
Cylinder stop assembly
Sideplate screws
Other parts that would be available are
Cylinder
Cylinder latch
Bolt
Ejector rod (minus knob)
Ejector star
Trigger
Hammer
Ratchet hand
Springs
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FWIW, I have several extra 1899 original barrels. The barrel threads were changed with the 1902 1st change, so any barrel later than that will not fit. And, of course, the early 1902 barrels have a lug for a different extractor scheme, so that would have to be cut off for the barrel to fit right.
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FWIW, I have several extra 1899 original barrels. The barrel threads were changed with the 1902 1st change, so any barrel later than that will not fit. And, of course, the early 1902 barrels have a lug for a different extractor scheme, so that would have to be cut off for the barrel to fit right.
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I don't suppose any of those barrels are for sale?
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Yes - they are for sale. I think the barrels are 6 or 6 1/2", and I think they are all set up for a pinned front sight blade. Thats not a problem for a fixed-sight revolver. Any conventional blade can be pinned in, or a half-moon blade can be pinned in. Let me know what length you are looking for, and what finish. I can post pictures here.
I also will have a nickel 6 1/2" that came off another 1899. The bore is slightly pitted, but certainly useable. You could nickel-plate the cylinder, and make a two-tone out of it. This barrel would not be very expensive.
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Yes - they are for sale. I think the barrels are 6 or 6 1/2", and I think they are all set up for a pinned front sight blade. Thats not a problem for a fixed-sight revolver. Any conventional blade can be pinned in, or a half-moon blade can be pinned in. Let me know what length you are looking for, and what finish. I can post pictures here.
I also will have a nickel 6 1/2" that came off another 1899. The bore is slightly pitted, but certainly useable. You could nickel-plate the cylinder, and make a two-tone out of it. This barrel would not be very expensive.
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Well, since the revolver is in relatively poor shape, I'd be interested in the least expensive blued barrel I could get. The nickel barrel wouldn't be my first choice, even though it sounds like the least expensive option, simply because it wouldn't look right, without also adding a nickel cylinder - which would add additional expense.
So the least expensive blued barrel you have would be the one I'd be most interested in. If you would be willing to send me a photo and quote me a price, that would be great.
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The term that comes to mind is "bow-wow", but I'd be tempted to get it gussied up a little for a tackle box gun that wouldn't pain me too much if it fell overboard. To join all the good ones that folks here are always talking about losing in boating accidents.
My story is different. Smelter accident.
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