Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > >


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-11-2018, 08:18 PM
bedbugbilly bedbugbilly is offline
Member
Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model  
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 374
Likes: 0
Liked 147 Times in 87 Posts
Default Need help with value of old M & P Target Model

I need some help in determining what a “fair value” or “sale price” would be on the revolver that I will post photos of. I am at a point in my life that I really need to downsize and I am considering selling this revolver but need some advice from educated “Smith people” as to what it is worth. I know that will depend on the geographical locations many times and I just need a ball park figure. I am not trying to make a “silk purse out of a sow’s ear” – it is what it is.

I bought this about 8 or 9 years ago when I stopped at a gun shop some distance from where I live – they were more in to the semi-autos and Zpmbie types – not revolvers. Actually, they had no idea of what it was – it was just and old
S & W revolver.

So here goes. When I first got it and posted it on this site, I was told Smith & Wesson M & P, 1st Model $th Change – Target Model. It was estimated that it was probably made in the early to mid 1920’s. I was also told that the stocks were not original to the pistol. All sounds right to me and unless someone has more info on the serial number and mfg. date – that sounds about right as well.

Condition

The revolver locks up tight and is in good mechanical condition – nice trigger pull in SA/DA, in time, etc. It shoots very well. I have taken it out a few times and put some WC loads and some 158 RN loads through it – mild as I reload and can adjust that. It is definitely not “pristine” or “like new”. This revolver was definitely used and loved by someone. It presents what I would call “authentic holster wear”. From the muzzle back on both sides of the barrel, the bluing is worn as well as on other high spots – front edges of the cylinder, etc. which would show holster wear. I am not an expert at “grading” but my guess would be that it was about 75% - 80% as far as the blueing – good honest wear and not abuse. I can’t speak for sure but it looks like there has not been any filing or adjusting to the front sight or any alterations to the adjustable rear sight. Needless to say, all I have is the revolver and not the original box or related items that would have come with it originally.

Serial Number: 5334XX – see photo of bottom of grip frame.

Chambered in 38 special – 6” barrel.

My wife and I moved into town into a condo last year from the farm and I no longer have access to the 50 yard range I had. I have other 38s to shoot including my 1952 M & P 5” 38 Special. When something happens to me, we don’t have kids and my wife will not know a whole lot about the things I have so it’s time to see they go to someone who will enjoy them as much as I have.

As I said, this is not “pristine” or “like new” – hopefully I’ve given a good enough description and the pictures will help show what wear it has. If some of you who are familiar with these Target Models could give me an idea of the value of it, I’d greatly appreciate it. Also, if someone could educate me on the grips it has would be appreciated. What would they date to?

Many thanks for any help you can give.
Attached Thumbnails
Need help with value of old M & P Target Model-dsc_0001-jpg   Need help with value of old M & P Target Model-dsc_0002-jpg   Need help with value of old M & P Target Model-dsc_0004-jpg   Need help with value of old M & P Target Model-dsc_0005-jpg   Need help with value of old M & P Target Model-dsc_0007-jpg  

Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Like Post:
  #2  
Old 06-11-2018, 08:21 PM
bedbugbilly bedbugbilly is offline
Member
Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model  
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 374
Likes: 0
Liked 147 Times in 87 Posts
Default more photos

more photos
Attached Thumbnails
Need help with value of old M & P Target Model-dsc_0010-jpg   Need help with value of old M & P Target Model-dsc_0016-jpg   Need help with value of old M & P Target Model-dsc_0019-jpg   Need help with value of old M & P Target Model-dsc_0022-jpg  
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #3  
Old 06-11-2018, 08:28 PM
bedbugbilly bedbugbilly is offline
Member
Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model  
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 374
Likes: 0
Liked 147 Times in 87 Posts
Default pictures

pictures of S & W M & P Target
Attached Thumbnails
Need help with value of old M & P Target Model-dsc_0025-jpg   Need help with value of old M & P Target Model-dsc_0029-jpg   Need help with value of old M & P Target Model-dsc_0031-jpg   Need help with value of old M & P Target Model-dsc_0034-jpg   Need help with value of old M & P Target Model-dsc_0037-jpg  

Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #4  
Old 06-11-2018, 08:30 PM
bedbugbilly bedbugbilly is offline
Member
Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model  
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 374
Likes: 0
Liked 147 Times in 87 Posts
Default the remainder

the rest of the photos I have of the M & P

Thanks for any info or help on the value - greatly appreciate it.
Attached Thumbnails
Need help with value of old M & P Target Model-dsc_0040-jpg   Need help with value of old M & P Target Model-dsc_0046-jpg   Need help with value of old M & P Target Model-dsc_0049-jpg   Need help with value of old M & P Target Model-dsc_0055-jpg  
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #5  
Old 06-11-2018, 08:37 PM
murphydog's Avatar
murphydog murphydog is offline
SWCA Member
Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model  
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 17,751
Likes: 32
Liked 7,080 Times in 4,237 Posts
Default

The gun's production dates to the latter part of the 1920 decade, perhaps 1926 or '27; the stocks are from the 1910 decade.

I think a fair value would be in the $600 range but others here will chime in. Cool gun.
__________________
Alan
SWCA 2023, SWHF 220
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #6  
Old 06-11-2018, 08:58 PM
jmace57's Avatar
jmace57 jmace57 is offline
SWCA Member
Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model  
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Montgomery, TX
Posts: 1,667
Likes: 1,929
Liked 2,079 Times in 689 Posts
Default

My first reaction was just like Alan's - $600 given its condition.
__________________
SWCA#2886
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-11-2018, 09:42 PM
shouldazagged shouldazagged is offline
Member
Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model  
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Louisville, KY, USA
Posts: 17,251
Likes: 35,839
Liked 32,770 Times in 10,182 Posts
Default

I just wish I had the money to make you an offer. Nice gun.
__________________
Lesser son of a great man.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-11-2018, 10:14 PM
model3sw's Avatar
model3sw model3sw is offline
SWCA Member
Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: South Florida, USA
Posts: 2,443
Likes: 4,776
Liked 2,409 Times in 937 Posts
Default

I have a soft spot for all pre-war M&P Targets. In this instance the most quantity of Target versions were manufactured in the 1904 / 4th change serial number range. All are pretty to look at and sweet to shoot but don't bring more seious money unless the condition is in the high 90s (97-99%) condition, and better with box, papers, tools.

In short, what you have there a serious pre-war collector / shooter would put up between $600-$800 for yours if it is mechanically excellent.
__________________
Sal "ANTIQUESMITHS"
LM1300
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-11-2018, 10:17 PM
Targets Guy's Avatar
Targets Guy Targets Guy is offline
US Veteran
Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model  
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Southwest Iowa
Posts: 7,502
Likes: 1,499
Liked 11,831 Times in 3,584 Posts
Default

If the s/n is 533442 then the gun shipped between 2/26 and 4/26.

This one (s/n 535896) shipped 4/26



stocks are not original
__________________
Mike
S&WCA #3065
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-11-2018, 10:57 PM
reddog81 reddog81 is offline
Member
Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model  
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: IA
Posts: 873
Likes: 209
Liked 669 Times in 358 Posts
Default

I'd snap it up at $500. $600 is probably reasonable. You might be able to get $700 or more if you want to sit on it for a little while.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 06-12-2018, 02:06 PM
glowe's Avatar
glowe glowe is offline
US Veteran

Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model  
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Michigan Western UP
Posts: 7,455
Likes: 521
Liked 3,716 Times in 1,973 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bedbugbilly View Post
I need some help in determining what a “fair value” or “sale price” would be on the revolver that I will post photos of . . .

Many thanks for any help you can give.
I just picked up a 38 M&P, 4th in the 482,XXX serial number range for $400 online. It's only problem was that it had a set of post-factory pearls. I had the correct stocks for a 1920s revolver and it is not ready for a trip to the range. I think a good range is $400 to maybe $550 at auction. There were a lot of 4th Model M&Ps made and a good number of target guns as well.

Here is what I bought. It was shipped in 1925 and cleaned up quite nicely.
Attached Thumbnails
Need help with value of old M & P Target Model-p1010004-jpg   Need help with value of old M & P Target Model-p1010010a-jpg   Need help with value of old M & P Target Model-p1010009-jpg   Need help with value of old M & P Target Model-p1010008-jpg  
__________________
Gary
SWCA 2515
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #12  
Old 06-12-2018, 02:16 PM
29aholic's Avatar
29aholic 29aholic is offline
Member
Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model Need help with value of old M & P Target Model  
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Hermitage, MO
Posts: 5,734
Likes: 1,512
Liked 1,654 Times in 644 Posts
Default

I have a target in similar condition I paid $525.00 shipped for with original grips.
__________________
C M Brier CPA, CIA, CFE
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
4" 1950 Model Target 44 (Pre 24) With Smooth Goncalo Alves Target Grips 230grfmj S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 80 06-05-2018 12:15 PM
FOUND WTB target hammer and target trigger for s&w model 19-5 bnogare WANTED to Buy 1 06-20-2013 04:56 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:39 AM.


© S-W Forum, LLC 2000-2018
Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)