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Can you help me with this old one ?
Hi ! I have this old revolver in 22lr. I dont know the value and i want to sale it. Thanks !
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Looks like it's from the 1920's. Condition doesn't really look all that bad. It would clean up nicely. If I saw it out for $600-$800, I would likely consider buying it.
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07-09-2018, 09:17 PM
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...that's a 22/32 Heavy Frame Target...the LERK...Large Ejector Rod Knob...started sometime in 1927...so if the ejector rod is original...it's no older than that...
...I'd like to have one...but I'll let the more experienced suggest a price...
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If I could make out the SN better (531547?), I could probably date it. But definitely a post-1927 .22 HFT due to the presence of the barrel-shaped extractor rod knob. Condition is a little sweaty which reduces its value considerably. I'd think $600-$800 is a little optimistic for that one but not impossible.
If it is 531547, that would make it probably from the early 1930s (1931-32), but during the Great Depression, it could have shipped somewhat later than that.
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It has the flat chrome medallions in the grips so made after 1930 if grips are original. And no later than 1936 - early 1937 because it still has the small logo on left side of frame instead of the large logo on the side plate, ordered Dec 1936.
By that time it was officially called the ".22/32 Target" (no longer the Heavy Frame Target).
It's the 2nd highest # in the database to the last known shipped before the war:
534506 is the highest number known pre war shipped in June of 1940.
I'd put it in the $600-$700 range tops.
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07-10-2018, 08:55 AM
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My bad. . .1930's and likely late. I typed too fast and overlooked the SN and the silver medallion grips. Being among the last ones to ship before the war is really neat.
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Originally Posted by ParadiseRoad
t...the LERK...Large Ejector Rod Knob...started sometime in 1927...so if the ejector rod is original...it's no older than that...
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For the OP, technically that is not an accurate statement. The largest ejector rod knob was by far the mushroom knob placed on hand ejectors from the early 1900s until 1927.
The silver medallion on the stocks indicates the 1930s decade, BUT those are early style target stocks and may not number to the gun. That serial number 531547 places the gun very near the beginning of WWII, 1940 or so. The stocks in that configuration were made in the 1910s and had gold washed medallions. Perhaps someone touched those up with aluminum paint?? In either case, not sure if they are correct?? Can you check to see if the stocks have a step in the back or do they cover the entire back-strap? If you can remove them, check for serial numbers on the right stock. Lastly, are the chambers recessed?
The gun is well used, just as intended, but that fact quickly reduces value. If the stocks are not original and with the wear and tear to the finish, I would think somewhere in the $350 to $450 range.
EDIT: I just posted and see a few other posts got in before I got mine completed. I do still question the authenticity of those stocks?? I thought that by the 1930s all butt-frames were standard I frame, without the stepped frame that stocks of that early style were used? I will also edit my value estimate by saying that if the stocks do number to the gun, the value would approach $600.
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Regarding the exact shipping date, without a letter it is conjecture. However I do have listed a .22/32 Target with SN 5256xx which shipped in 6/1931. As most know, during the Depression, finished guns could sit in factory inventory for years prior to shipment as few had the money to buy anything other than essential items.
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Originally Posted by glowe
The silver medallion on the stocks indicates the 1930s decade, BUT those are early style target stocks and may not number to the gun.
The stocks in that configuration were made in the 1910s and had gold washed medallions. Perhaps someone touched those up with aluminum paint?? In either case, not sure if they are correct?? Can you check to see if the stocks have a step in the back or do they cover the entire back-strap? If you can remove them, check for serial numbers on the right stock. Lastly, are the chambers recessed?
EDIT: I just posted and see a few other posts got in before I got mine completed. I do still question the authenticity of those stocks?? I thought that by the 1930s all butt-frames were standard I frame, without the stepped frame that stocks of that early style were used?
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Gary,
Target Stocks:
The stocks are the later version and proper vintage for the gun because the early version had dished tops for the medallion. The convex tops with flat chromed non-recessed medallions are correct for those after 1930.
• Gold plate over brass medallions ordered reinstated in wood stocks but with ‘convex’ stock circles on 2/11/1929; 3/18/29 changed to flush mounted, flat gold plated, and then finally changed April 1929 to flush mounted, flat chrome plated over brass.
The rebated grip frame was only used with reproduction of the HFT following WW I when Reg Police stocks became standard at ~ #258000 until 1923.
Rebated Grip Frame:
This gun will have the standard rd butt non-rebated grip frame since target stocks did not require the rebate which was eliminated by the Aug. 29, 1923 change order when the Regulation Police grips were dropped and target grips again became standard but with convex tops and w/o medallions until 1929.
Recessded Chambers:
This gun is right on the cusp of having recessed cyl chambers reportedly introduced at ~ # 525600, by change order dated Jan 7, 1935.
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