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Old 07-08-2018, 06:06 PM
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My Model of 1905 4th change has none of the usual markings on the barrel top--Pat'd dates, S&W address. And it looks newer than the reat of the gun. Replacement bbl? Yet the SN stamped on the bottom of the barrel under the extractor rod matches the SNs on the handle bottom and cylinder, except for a "B" stamped before the bbl SN. I see and feel a slight radius decrease of the bbl diameter starting just behind the front sight blade. Since the revolver seems to have been reblued LONG ago, might the usual markings on the barrel top have been sanded down and off by S&W?
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Old 07-08-2018, 06:12 PM
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Some pics would help!
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Old 07-08-2018, 06:48 PM
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It's been stated that the use of the patent stampings on the barrel continued until around mid-1948. But you haven't provided much information about your revolver nor any pictures, so no one really knows exactly what you have.
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SN: 294976 (mfr approx. 1918). My camera won't focus close enough to give the needed detail. But in trying to take the shot I noticed the bbl top is slightly flattened and several stamped letter fragents are barely visible. Mystery solved. Thanks
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Likely replaced with a post war barrel at the factory, they have no patent dates. The factory would not polish of the patent dates.

Look for a rework date on the bottom left side of the grip frame after removing the grip.

Is there a star following the serial # on the bottom (butt) of the grip frame?
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no star, no date, and only very small "B" and "F" letters stamped on the right grip frame at the bottom between the mainspring seat and the grip positioning pin. But the faint remnants of stamped letters on the flattened bbl top would indicate someone ground it down, likely prepping for re-bluing. Don't think I'll buy another gun online--seller never disclosed the re-bluing, or the non-matching grip serial #'s. I should have asked--my bad. And the posted photos are never detailed enough.

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Probably NOT a postwar barrel. The B (for blue) wasn't used after WWII. Besides a gun that early (SN 294976) would need relief under the barrel for the extractor rod knob, unless that also was changed. My guess is this was a non-factory barrel swap and the patent dates were polished off.
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If the underbarrel serial matches, with the B present, we may not even need the assumption of the swapped barrel.

Sounds like the patent info was just mostly buffed off for the refinish. Maybe there was rust on the top of the barrel due to storage issues, and someone removed and refinished the barrel, which would explain everything just as well.
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