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That's a really good drawing of your son's face. One trick you can try...if you'll notice on the photograph, there is a bright reflection on the eyes. Usually, there is a light source which illuminates the face. Because the eye is spherical, the reflection will highlight the round surface. Your drawing has the eyes solid dark. Try to copy the reflection that you see in the eye by just leaving an unpenciled in highlight. Also, try not having a heavy outline of the eye...in some areas, just a light suggestion of the outline will be better than a heavy line.

(Edit...I never used them, but I do have a couple of degrees in art...but that's been 40 plus years ago. Also, my dad was a painter....but I still feel embarrassed giving someone advice, so feel free to disregard it!!)

Don't "overwork" it!!!

You are doing remarkable work for the very short time since your first drawing of the Victory Smith!!! Keep up the good work, and the best of luck in your fight against the Lyme disease.

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That's a really good drawing of your son's face. One trick you can try...if you'll notice on the photograph, there is a bright reflection on the eyes. Usually, there is a light source which illuminates the face. Because the eye is spherical, the reflection will highlight the round surface. Your drawing has the eyes solid dark. Try to copy the reflection that you see in the eye by just leaving an unpenciled in highlight. Also, try not having a heavy outline of the eye...in some areas, just a light suggestion of the outline will be better than a heavy line.

(Edit...I never used them, but I do have a couple of degrees in art...but that's been 40 plus years ago. Also, my dad was a painter....but I still feel embarrassed giving someone advice, so feel free to disregard it!!)

Don't "overwork" it!!!

You are doing remarkable work for the very short time since your first drawing of the Victory Smith!!! Keep up the good work, and the best of luck in your fight against the Lyme disease.

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If you look really really closely, you can see that on the right side of each eye, there is some reflection spots. They got kind of convoluted after drawing on it and darker than they should be. And I don't have a super sharp eraser. But I put them in when I started drawing the eye. And yeah, it would look so much better if they were bigger and brighter like the pic.

But believe me, the praise and tips alike are welcomed. I can learn from all the suggestions. So thank you!
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That art work is magnificent!
Good luck with Lyme also. Know what it`s like. Was parylized from neck down, hospitalized 10 months, almost lost both arms, did lose 6 toes.
Good new is my arms and legs are coming back but still can only move thumbs and trigger finger. All from a tick bite. I share all of the pain and weakness episodes but glad to still be here. Just turned 66. Went down in 2012.
But, again i commend you on your gift of art.
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Oh my LORD, you've been in the trenches too. I pray you continue to get better!!!!!!!

Thank you for the praise. Thank you for opening up and sharing your trials with Lyme. I'm really sorry you've had to go through that. Those freaking little bugs. Somebody rid the earth of them already..... Geeeeez.

I fully intended to be an outdoorsman, a weekend one mind you. But life had other plans. I deer hunted from age to about
34 and then that was it. And it wasn't from hunting. Camping in a camper...... Labor Day weekend. 2002. It didn't hit with a vengeance until 2007 though.

Hang in there man. I will add you to my prayer list for healing.
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Keep drawing and please keep posting. A lot better than any freehand drawing of mine! Thank you.
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JoesCuba is a member over at AR15.com and he always posts the coolest guns. This is his Dad's gun he posted over there. He served our country around the globe and for that I thank him! This was his Dad's gun that he got in a foreign country. You guys might really appreciate this one. According to Joe, that is the finish that was on the gun. I think the implication was that was from the factory. His Dad obtained it in Cuba. Which maybe that means it's older than 1961. When did we stop doing trade with Cuba? I don't know the history. (Quick Google says 1960). So this one is probably older than 61.

Rough draft, pre shading. This is one of the coolest Model 10's I've ever seen. Very unique.

I nearly gave up on this one after the first hour. I went through a bunch of eraser. I think I got it close now though.



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APBOS, keep up the great effort, I see an improvement with each attempt. Wishing you the best in dealing with your illness.
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Wow! Still free hand? You’re getting better by the minute. Will be praying for you, even thou you’re a Badger ! Hawkeye dave
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I couldn't get the quote function to work, so
OP said "These were not done with a measuring tool, so I know some of the dimensions are wonky and somehow I managed to give a good slant to the back of the cylinder and not notice until about now. LOL. Oooops. Among other issues. Handle seems a bit off and tapered barrels are not easy to draw. hehehehe"

Looks to me like your Mark I Mod 0 eyeball is a pretty good measuring device - keep it up!
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Yes Thinnes. Still free hand. Only tools I have are my bic pencil, and I use my controller for my sound bar for the TV for some straight lines. That's it. I'm thinking about getting a better eraser after this one though. My friend is a super great charcoal artist and he was telling me about all the different hardness pencils I should have and all that. But I'm not sure I want to be that complex about it. I do think a good erasure would helps. Especially when doing the shading. One you can make sharper for finer lines.

Thanks guys!!! It has been a lot of fun doing these. I want them to turn into real guns though.

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I added the knife today. I'm not sure I'm going to do the watch. I'm going to start shading the gun and knife and think about if I want to tackle that watch......




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A feller could durn near shoot those rascals. Keep it up.
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It's my hope that they will somehow magically turn real for me. LOL.
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You have great skills, please keep up the good work.

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Thank you. I'm glad people are enjoying them. I feel somewhat useful. LOL.

I'm not sure it's any better than looking at real pics of guns. But I did always find something cool about looking at peoples drawings.
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It's done. Still having a hard time getting good pics of the shading. Only way to get the real life shading is for it to be dark overall.....

I need to fix the placement of the screw on the frame. It's too low. Grrrrrr......

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Drawing #7 Nickel plated 2" Model 10

Pre shading and I left out the texturing on the grip for another day. Wanted to get pics before I lost outside light.

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I know there are a lot of imperfections on this drawing. Some bug the living **** out of me. But some of them I let it ride because the hassle for fixing them was greater than the desire to just let it be imperfect. I have to stop the obsessing at some level. Or maybe I don't. I don't know. LOL.

I'm definitely not as good as some guys. I saw some art done by a fellow church member this last week that just showed how talented some people are. And how taking their time and practice made them better. But seriously.....

Check these out, MSUbulldog would appreciate this guys work (His name is Tom Kalina, you can google his name and aviation art and see what he's done. They absolutely WOW!!):



My stuff looks like turds next to his. But that's OK. He gets credit for his talent. I guess he spends a year or so on them after work.... Or did. I'm not sure if he's still doing them.

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Pencil Drawing # 8 649

Pre shading mode.

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Abpos--Yr work definitely shows improvement each time. You have shown progress all along, so my all means keep at it. I think we all hope your health can improve in future. Keeping your fingers limbered up with pencil work will pay off when you can get back ro shooting again.

We all wish you good luck & better health to come!
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Wow, your kind words really mean a lot. I have been feeling better since I started drawing. But still have a ways to go. But man your encouraging words are like salve on wounds. I really appreciate it. I actually had a really lousy day today health wise. But hopefully it won't stay that way. Feeling better this evening. And getting encouraging words really helps the soul. So thank very much.
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I felt like snapping a pic of the extra details I did before I shade.....

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It's done.....

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Thank you. I started another one the other day. I didn't get very far on it but it's of a member's gun on this forum.
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You truly have amazing talent. The rate at which you have progressed is astonishing. I'd say the sky's the limit.
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Thank you very much sir. Sorry I didn't say that earlier. I have another one partially done. Pre shaded mode.

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Finished her up.

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Another one started. It's my Dad's gun and it's his 75th bday today. So I wanted to do his gun for him.

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how are you making radius's so precise without tracing? Or are you tracing the outline of the actual pic and just doing the shading afterwards? The spacing on the pic with the pocket knife is near exact in the drawing and the photo which lead me to ask if you are tracing first. No biggie, just curious is all. I had a few art scholarship offers but didn't want to pursue it anymore at that point in my young and dumb life...
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Just a suggestion but, you might want to see if there are any art stores near you. If so I'd see what they have that you might use in your artistic endeavors. You have a God given ability that few possess. Use it & remember you can only get better.

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how are you making radius's so precise without tracing? Or are you tracing the outline of the actual pic and just doing the shading afterwards? The spacing on the pic with the pocket knife is near exact in the drawing and the photo which lead me to ask if you are tracing first. No biggie, just curious is all. I had a few art scholarship offers but didn't want to pursue it anymore at that point in my young and dumb life...
I'm looking at a pic on my computer. So no, no tracing. I've got witnesses. LOL. Well my kids are. They are obviously biased witnesses but they can vouch for me nonetheless. If I was tracing it I'd have to probably have it on an tablet of large size, which I don't have. I'm drawing them on a 9 x 12 pad now. I guess one could have a copy of the photo made and trace it. But no, I'm not doing that. That'd be like cheating if you ask me. Not that I'd fault anyone for doing that if they wanted to. That doesn't really answer your question about how I'm making radius "so precise". I just draw it. I'll take that as a HUGE compliment. I try to be precise, but they're definitely not exact.

One way to see that I'm not tracing is if you look at some of the dimension on pretty much every drawing, they are off a little. In the drawing you brought up, if you look at the placement of the take down lever, and the overall shape of the handle, you'll see it's just not exact. Most of the time I'm adjusting the handle size a few or several times once I get the rest of the frame drawn because usually the proportions are off the first time around. On that one I adjusted it several times size wise, I think I kept making it longer. And I couldn't figure out how I messed up the placement of take down lever with the stocks, but I got it as good as I could.

Same with the 649, I think there is actually more real estate surrounding the take down lever than actually is on the gun..... And I think the grip is actually smaller in relation to the frame, than the real life gun. Just things that annoy me. I do my best but they're definitely off in small ways, in many places.

And honestly, each time I've started one when I start drawing it I think, there's no freaking way I'm going to be able to do this right. But I just do it anyways. Because I'd rather try. And then I'm like ecstatic when I get to the point that it actually seems to come together.

Admittedly I've avoided putting up every original pic because I knew it would show the differences between my drawing and the actual gun. And people would see, oh man, that is really off there. So I was trying to not draw a lot of attention to that. If you think I'd be more transparent and wiser to show the original picture every time, I could do that too.


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Just a suggestion but, you might want to see if there are any art stores near you. If so I'd see what they have that you might use in your artistic endeavors. You have a God given ability that few possess. Use it & remember you can only get better.

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You mean like different pencils and erasers and stuff? That's not a bad idea. I was trying to keep it simple. But I hear what you're saying. My friend that is a really really good charcoal artist said I could get those "click" erasers and cut them with a knife to do like really small or thin erasing. Which really would come in handy. I'm actually pretty broke right now. So I probably won't spend too much money. But we do have an art store sort of close. I should go in there and see what kind of tools there are.

Thank you for the encouragement and kind words. I spend a lot of time focusing on all the areas I wish I was better in my life and pretty much feel like a failure a lot of the time. Maybe failure is more harsh than I should say, but definitely..... broken. So I guess having an area that is a shining light is really comforting. I've got a wonderful family too and really good friends. And I do meet some really nice people on this site and such. I really appreciate it.

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The pic I took of my Dad's gun that I did the drawing from, I should've done the speedloader too. That would've been cool. It's interesting how it's tapered. Because the lense on the camera does that and the perspective I guess. It was the same with the barrel and underlug. I tried to incorporate the fact that it looks wider at the front and tapers to a smaller dimension as it moves rearward to the frame. That was on of the reasons I didn't want to do the speedloader because a sensible person would say why is that tapered. Because in real life, it's not:


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I gentleman that writes for the TFB (the firearm blog) contacted me and wanted to do a small article about me and my drawings. He is a super nice guy. He's not a member here but he is at AR15.com. He's a police officer in Iowa and we've talked back and forth several times. I may have found a new friend and I'm totally flattered and humbled that he felt like sharing my story and drawings.

I hope it blesses someone because I know I'm not alone in my struggles with lyme disease.

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Oh shoot. Now I can't remember. That might be a violation. I need to reread the rules. Can someone link them to me? I can't find them.
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If you mean is posting a link a violation I don't think so, at least the way you did it. If I remember correctly, Lee says that we should not post just a bare link, but should explain why you are posting it, and why we should visit the linked site. I think you have done this, so if my understanding of the rule is correct, you are fine.

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And that is a nice story that you linked us to. Of course, you also gave us your real name, which many folks don't want to do. But there are a lot of members here on the forum who know my real name, and I haven't had any problems with that.

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I don't much mind about the real name thing. On AR15.com I just use my name as my screen name. I never really thought about if it's a real good idea or not. I'm sure there are good arguments against being anonymous, but I figure I am who I am, online and off.
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Drawing #11 rough draft of an HE .44

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I finished up tonight and did my darndest to get a pic. If I have time I'll get better pics tomorrow with more light.

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a bit better pic I think.....

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The grips look very life like. Keep up the good work.

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Thank you. I really appreciate that. I like them too. LOL. I don't like everything I draw but this one I do like a lot.

I have been feeling better and not as slowed down as much so I haven't drawn one since that one. It's in the back of my head to do though and I should start another one. I keep looking for ones I want to draw and have a few in mind. One of them is a newer one with factory rubber combat grips and I'm overwhelmed by that because the little ovals are so perfect in there that I'm not sure I'd do it any justice...... Getting all to be so lined up and consistent would be a big challenge.
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Oh my LORD, you've been in the trenches too. I pray you continue to get better!!!!!!!

Thank you for the praise. Thank you for opening up and sharing your trials with Lyme. I'm really sorry you've had to go through that. Those freaking little bugs. Somebody rid the earth of them already..... Geeeeez.

I fully intended to be an outdoorsman, a weekend one mind you. But life had other plans. I deer hunted from age to about
34 and then that was it. And it wasn't from hunting. Camping in a camper...... Labor Day weekend. 2002. It didn't hit with a vengeance until 2007 though.

Hang in there man. I will add you to my prayer list for healing.

I'm adding both of you to my prayer list, ongoing.

If an observation helps, you might pay closer attention to getting hammer sizes in exact proportion.

I think it's remarkable that you do so well with pics on a computer screen, not able to hold the gun and turn it and feel what its weight and shape and balance can tell an artist.

As for your dad's 75th birthday drawing, I know how much it will mean to him. I have a painting of a lynx that my daughter gave me when she was 15. Her art skills are very considerable. And it's in full color, with foliage, too. I display it prominently.

I'm struggling with peripheral neuropathy, but your Lyme disease seems much worse, and certainly Jimbo's. I don't know if I could survive emotionally intact if I'd had to endure what he has.

Crystal Hefner has Lyme disease. She seems to have it gone now, or in remission. I think she's selling real estate today, as does her mom. So, it can sometimes be defeated or controlled. I hope that info inspires you.

Look up the cover to the hardcover edition of Ian Fleming's, "From Russia, With Love". See the modified Victory Model that artist Richard Chopping painted? He worked from life, borrowing that gun from Geoffrey Boothroyd. Seeing his work may give you some tips.

If you get bored with drawing guns, try trout. Your basic talent makes me think you may someday rival Joseph R. Tomelleri as a fish artist. I buy his trout calendar annually, and am always amazed at what the human hand and eye can depict. He is all but photographically accurate! But even an artist of his talent had to begin, then improve.

God be with you. My prayers will!

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Thank you Texas Star!!! I appreciate the prayers and kind words and all of it. I did notice on a couple of my drawings I wasn't happy with the hammer size too.... And I went over it in my head whether I should leave it or not. All of them have proportion issues. But if I could make them perfect, I'd have holes in my hands. LOL. But I am working on it. Well, I was... I imagine I'll start one again soon. I've been better physically so I spend less time on the couch and more time doing things. But I really want to start another one.

I'm sure Jimbo appreciates the prayers too. It is good to hear about people that have overcome. One of the issues is it takes a lot of money to really dial in what helps. There are so many varied treatments and way to go and we've spent more money than I really wanted to, to fight this. Now our budget is so tight from dealing with it all. Gotta get some of the bills paid off.
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I drew my stepson this free handed AK. He had a thing for them for a while. I've drawn a Colt 1991A1 and Beretta M9 as well...as well as some fantasy big bore revolvers.

Nice work, and congrats on getting on TFB. I'm a follower of theirs. Surprised I missed it.
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That is very very very good!!!! You can post the others up if you want. I would love to see them and I'm sure other people would too!!!!

Another thing we have in common RickA. LOL. Pretty cool!!!!

Your picture of your picture is way better than mine. That is seriously a good digital pic of your drawing.
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