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S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 All 5-Screw & Vintage 4-Screw SWING-OUT Cylinder REVOLVERS, and the 35 Autos and 32 Autos


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Old 07-14-2018, 06:04 PM
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Type-Hand ejector, Serial-48578, CTG-38 special, length-5".sights-fixed
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We're (I'm) gonna need more info....like a photo perhaps.
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Welcome to the forum.

If you have a photo or photos in your computer it is not too hard to upload them to a post. You can use the manage attachments button down one block in the posting section and put it into your thread.

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On the other hand, given no letter prefix to that serial number, it would appear you have a "38 Hand Ejector Military & Police Model of 1902 (First Change, if you want to get picky about it). Those were produced from 1903 to 1905, from number 33804 to 62449.

A dead giveaway to the accuracy of this guess will be the absence of a screw going into the frame (bottom side---in front of the trigger guard).

And just in case it should come up in casual conversation, I wouldn't recommend using "+P" ammunition in it.

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And on yet another hand, given the presence of that screw, we have a whole new ball game, and you may have a 38/44 Hand Ejector---a k a a 38/44 Heavy Duty. They hail from 1930 to 1941, and you can shoot +P ammo in it all day long----+++P too---if there is such a thing.

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Or, could it be a 38/44 HD?
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I agree with Ralph. There were only two models in that caliber with that serial number. The 38/44 Outdoorsman was only available in 6 1/2" and 8 3/4" barrel length from 1931 to 1941.
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[QUOTE=glowe;140100934]I agree with Ralph. There were only two models in that caliber with that serial number."

What about a converted .38 S&W Victory model, minus the V?

"The 38/44 Outdoorsman was only available in 6 1/2" and 8 3/4" barrel length from 1931 to 1941."

Hacksaws come in different lengths too. Besides, the OP said that the sights were fixed.
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Unlikely that both the "V" was removed without the serial number also being gone, plus the barrel was cut to 5". Too many questions left unanswered . . .

We might never know since the OP has not gotten back to us. I do, however, like a goo mystery.
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I don't know how we can make it any plainer, "How to identify your gun", maybe make it in double size type and put it in blinking red?
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I see manage attachments block but can't attach pic from computer document folder, sorry, thanks for trying. is 1902 mfg date reasonably solid? Sure looks too new for 1902 with nickle plating and all.
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Welcome to the forums from the Wiregrass! A prime reason for not being able to upload pictures is they are too large. Resize them if they are over 1920x1280 pixels.
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If you can e-mail me the picture(s) at [email protected], I'll post for you. Probably a mid 1925 if an M&P model.
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The 1902 date is as solid as a fart in a windstorm.

You were given a fairly substantial clue relating to the absence or presence of exactly one screw. That screw is the cake. The photos you're focused on are frosting. First comes cake. Then comes frosting.

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1. Does it have a shroud under the barrel around the extractor rod? Given that you say it has fixed sights, that would make it a .38/44 Heavy Duty. The shroud would look somewhat like this:


SN 48578 would date its shipment to about 1936

2. If it has no shroud it would be a Model of 1902 from 1904. It would also have a rounded butt, not square as shown in the picture above.

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My bad, I misread the serial number. It is definitely a 1902 Model 1st change. Probably from the first quarter of 1905. Here are the pics he sent.
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Refinished. If you compare the seam between the sideplate of your revolver and an original finish example, you will see that your gun shows a depression around the edges of the plate and frame indicating fairly aggressive buffing. This is one of the major issues with a gunsmith refinish where they buffed all the parts seperately. The way the factory finished these guns and professional refinishers was to leave the sideplate on the gun while preparing the gun for a refinish. That keeps the seam flat. Other less noticeable are all the edges are soft. Original guns will have all sharp edges with no rounding.

Here is a 1910 M&P example to use to compare.
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Here are some additional pics. He stated there is no screw in front of trigger guard and the serial number is stamped inside the right grip. I also told him the gun had been re-finished and what I thought value is.
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