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Old 07-19-2018, 07:43 PM
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I've finally added a third Pre-32 revolver to my small collection. Joining an I-frame with diamond, service grips and a J-frame with Magna diamond grips and flat thumb latch is an I-frame with diamond Magna grips in very good condition. As you can see in the thumbnail images, my new Terrier came with a box. It does number to the gun like the grips and I suspect this red box is not period correct (can anybody tell me?). It also had a S&W letter from Roy Jinks advising that it was shipped from Springfield on 3 Feb. 1953 to Sutcliffe Hardware in Louisville, Ky. As I'm from Louisville, that was really cool, plus I used to do a little business with Sutcliffe's back in the day. I put a of B.K. Grips T-grip adapter on it, like I do most of my Smith wheelguns; now to get it out and shoot it a little!
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Old 07-19-2018, 08:02 PM
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Looks brand new. Beautiful little revolver.
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Old 07-19-2018, 08:33 PM
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I have 2 red boxes one with red label and one with red label. 66971 shipped April 1952 has a red box , I believe that a red box would be correct for yours.
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Look on the bottom of the box. The number might be there but hard to see.
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Bill,

That's a beauty! It's a .38 Terrier Improved I frame (coil mainspring), 1st version with rd sight, a 5 screw; a bit early to be a Pre Model 32.

Your Terrier at the top is a Model of 1953 NEW I frame (larger trigger guard and 1/8" longer grip frame). Is it a 4 screw or the later 3 screw? It's a Pre 32, because its engineering design is the same as the Model 32 which is still a New I frame. The Model 32-1 is the J Frame introduced Jan 1961.

Your bottom Terrier is the earliest of the three, and likely a 32 Terrier Post War Transitional Model 6 screw if it has a leaf hammer spring.

Now you just need the Improved I frame, 2nd version with barrel rib and ramp sight like your top Terrier to have the four versions from that period. There's 6 versions all together including the 32-1 J frame.

Notice all three have a different style thumb latch. That's three of the seven different latches from the '50s.
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My wife just happens to have a 38 Terrier Improved I frame, 2nd version with barrel rib and ramp sight. 5 screw with a flat latch. SN 74685. Grips numbered to gun.
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That one earns its keep.

Likely shipped mid 1954.
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Thanks Jim, that's good information to have. I may try and get most/all of the variations eventually.

My oldest Terrier is a 5-screw with a coil spring, #61057. My recently acquired Terrier is a 5-screw, #67571. My most modern Terrier is a 4-screw, #78327. Thought I'd give you the serial numbers in case you keep a data-base.

Sadly, I don't look at the Forum very often, I need to find more time to check it and post things!

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That's a beauty! It's a .38 Terrier Improved I frame (coil mainspring), 1st version with rd sight, a 5 screw; a bit early to be a Pre Model 32.

Your Terrier at the top is a Model of 1953 NEW I frame (larger trigger guard and 1/8" longer grip frame). Is it a 4 screw or the later 3 screw? It's a Pre 32, because its engineering design is the same as the Model 32 which is still a New I frame. The Model 32-1 is the J Frame introduced Jan 1961.

Your bottom Terrier is the earliest of the three, and likely a 32 Terrier Post War Transitional Model 6 screw if it has a leaf hammer spring.

Now you just need the Improved I frame, 2nd version with barrel rib and ramp sight like your top Terrier to have the four versions from that period. There's 6 versions all together including the 32-1 J frame.

Notice all three have a different style thumb latch. That's three of the seven different latches from the '50s.
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Thank you Bill!
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Bill, thanks for breathing life back into your original thread. Here's a couple of my Terriers...
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