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Old 08-12-2018, 08:32 PM
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I just picked up a S&W 65-2 that the barrel is marked 38 S&W Special CTG only, now I thought it was supposed to come in .357, am I wrong? I would post photographs but it is pretty standard, stainless, marked 65-2, and is pinned and recessed. Anyone give me some info on this pistol?
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Sounds like a M64 built on a M65 marked frame. Have you checked to see if a .357 Magnum cartridge will chamber? If the cylinder is indeed recessed, the barrel could have been changed.
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Old 08-12-2018, 09:01 PM
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Interesting, a .357 round will chamber. So I guess the barrel was changed?
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Another possibility is that it was part of a special run made for some agency (possibly foreign) who wanted their guns in .38 Special only. Does it have a 3" barrel and / or a round butt?

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Production on the M65 started in 1972, so it would be appropriate to ask an Administrator to move this thread to the 1961 to 1980 Revolvers Forum.


Edited to add: Since a .357 Mag will chamber, it sounds like Muley Gil was right - barrel swap.
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Old 08-12-2018, 09:16 PM
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Pretty sure it is modern, has the 7D30XXXX serial number and the 4 inch barrel. I attached a few photos, I removed the grips since it needs a real good cleaning.
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Or, it could have a mis-marked barrel.

Or it could have been marked thataway for a police department that wanted to carry .357s, but also wanted to tell the public and the media that, "My officers only carry .38s"

There was a bunch of stupid stuff done just to be "PC".
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Thanks War Eagle, appreciate the info. Last question, does it impact the value? Is it worth less due to the barrel marked as it is.
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Or, it could have a mis-marked barrel.

Or it could have been marked thataway for a police department that wanted to carry .357s, but also wanted to tell the public and the media that, "My officers only carry .38s"

There was a bunch of stupid stuff done just to be "PC".
The second scenario seems a bit too contrived. I doubt, just for legal reasons, that S&W would knowingly allow a gun to be shipped with an incorrect caliber marking, just for a very easily revealed stunt like this. I think your first suggestion of a mis-marked (or mis-matched) barrel is more likely.

As for the impact on value, purists and inexperienced buyers alike might view this gun with suspicion and be less willing to pay a decent price. I’d actually find it attractive as a curiosity, and not only be inclined to pay more, but I’d letter it. But that’s just me
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When you hear hoof beats, look for horses not zebras. Recessed chambers that accept 357s and frame marked M65 then it is a Model 65. Now the barrel is odd. Most likely swapped due to the original being damaged or because a different barrel length was desired. Unlikely some secret government program or whatever.
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I will never be accused of being a fount of knowledge like Hondo, or many others here, but wouldn't the barrel stub (not sure of correct term) on a .38 barrel have to be considerably shortened in order to allow a 357-length cylinder to work? This is an interesting case - I have a 65 and a coupla 64's but have never seen or heard of an animul like this!
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I didn't mean it was some double secret government program or such. Countries like France, Peru and probably others actually had S&W sell them M19s, M13s, whatever that were normally .357 Mag revolvers chambered for .38 Special only.

I'm not saying it makes sense, I'm just saying it was done.
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I will never be accused of being a fount of knowledge like Hondo, or many others here, but wouldn't the barrel stub (not sure of correct term) on a .38 barrel have to be considerably shortened in order to allow a 357-length cylinder to work? This is an interesting case - I have a 65 and a coupla 64's but have never seen or heard of an animul like this!
Yes, the barrel shank would have to be shortened and the forcing cone re-cut.
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