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Explain to me this HFT
I believe this to be a gun of parts from different decades.
SN 207990
Obvious reblue; right-side S&W logo nearly sanded away.
Must have been deeply scarred; lightly struck star under the strain screw.
Diamond overstamp on "B" under barrel and on frame.
Also the number "63" stamped on frame.
Stocks are extended type with silver medallions.
September 14, '08 last patent date.
I've been using it on back yard armadillos. Perfect application, I think.
Tell me what you think.
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Here's more pics.
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Nice old factory refinish from the 1930's with replaced barrel, extractor rod, and Target Stocks.
Unusual not to have a rework date on left side grip frame at the toe.
Likely originally shipped March 1917.
The 63 stamp is routine and not relevant.
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Are there no other numbers stamped on the left side of the frame? Is there a star stamped on the bottom of the butt-frame?
My explanation is VERY NICE! 
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OP states there's a star under the tension screw, but it doesn't show in the photo.
The common location is following the serial # and above the screw.
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Doesn't look bad, photos could be better, blurry.
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Sorry for out-of-focus pics. The star below strain screw is faint but it’s there.
No other marks on frame than those described.
I think it’ll work well for its current purpose although those sights are
really fine for an old man.
Thanks for your thoughts, guys.
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Forgive my ignorance, but what is an HFT?
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Called 22/32 Heavy Frame Target.
I believe this model to be the first of
.22 caliber Hand Ejectors. Made after the
top-break models.
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It was the 1st I frame 22 Long Rifle; but the 2nd 22 Hand ejector.
The 1st is the tiny M frame 22 long HE:
3rd Model Ladysmith 3” M frame shown with an N frame TL for scale:
M frame top right with I and J frames:
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Although it's somewhat ironic now, the gun designated the "Heavy Frame Target" model in the I frame (previously reserved for the 32 S&W Long cartridge) was regarded as a big step up in size for the little 22... it had previously topped out with the little M frame. Of course a couple of decades later when the gnomes at Springfield figured out how to make the 22 work in the K frame (leading to the K-22) That's the ironic part... now we think of the I and later J frame as the "little" one and a "real" target 22 being housed in a K frame, so "HFT" brings a little grin every time I see it.
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That looks like a nice armadillo gun. 
I believe the "bug" screw, the one below the rear sight, is for a larger frame.
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Yeah, it's not recessed.
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Thanks for putting a “bug” in my ear on that
top screw. I hadn’t noticed.
I thought that last ‘dillo had a derisive
sneer on his mug.
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Nice shot
2 birds, one stone...
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A likely story....
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Your gun 207990 is one of the 490 guns shipped to M.W. Robinson in 5 shipments during January, February and March of 1914. So this gun shipped either 1/31, 2/18, 2/21, 2/27 or 3/19, 1914.
At this time it would have shipped with 2 screw extension stocks with gold medallions with a number stamped into the bottom of the left stock representing the order in which it was assembled. It is reported that only the first 3,000 guns received this stamping but my database shows no examples higher than 2582. Your gun would be in the range of 2100 or 2200 for assembly based on others in my database.
As others have already stated the barrel and the extractor rod have been replaced, possibly when the gun went back for the refinish. Normally it would have the large mushroom shaped extractor rod knob which required the barrel to be notched above the knob. This step was eliminated in the late 20's when the medium extractor rod knob was used that is just slightly larger than the diameter of the rod itself. The silver medallion stocks first appear around 1930.
It is possible that the factory added those stocks as well during the "upgrade". The factory felt that they were helping the gun owner by replacing older parts with current ones. They did not factor in collectability or the desire to maintain originality.
In the 1970's when Roy Jinks was the Service Manager and Historian he discontinued this practice so as not to ruin someones original gun unless replacement was the only option.
Hope that helps.
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Thanks James!
There is a world of knowledge on this forum.
I appreciate you all.
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