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10-15-2018, 02:15 PM
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1905 32 WCF. Looking for value?
I just picked up a 1905 32 WCF. Called Smith and they told me 1915 make. 4th gen. Dont know anything about these older revolvers. Nickle appears to be original, all letters and markings are still sharp. Has original grips. 6" barrel. 5 digit S/N. 657**.All numbers match. What would something like this be worth? Tight with no slack at all in cylinder. Thanks for any help you can provide.
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10-15-2018, 02:19 PM
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Some would say its worth whatever you paid for it. Where I shop they're usually in the $300-$400 range. That one looks pretty good so maybe the upper end of the range. I'd sure like to find a target version. Enjoy.
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10-15-2018, 02:22 PM
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Wow. For once the S&W folks are actually in the ballpark with their year of manufacture; often not the case on the old guns
It looks all original and with the correct stocks. This caliber is somewhat of a collector’s and shooter’s niche, so the value depends on who would want one how badly, but I would hazard a wild guess of 400 - 500.
PS: It’s not a “4th gen.”, but might be a 4th change which occurred in 1915; I’m not sure at what serial the cut-off for the .32 WCF was.
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10-15-2018, 02:29 PM
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thank you both for the response's. My father was a smith revolver guy, but I always followed the colts.
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10-15-2018, 02:51 PM
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According to the published data, the Fourth Change was implemented at serial number 65700. This one is very close to that line. Does it have the December 29, '14 patent date on the barrel? If so, it would have the Fourth Change internals. If not, it may be one of the last Third Change guns.
According to my list, 67114 shipped in December, 1916 (I actually own that gun).
For comparison:
60670 shipped in December, 1913.
72535 shipped in October, 1917.
76289 shipped in June, 1917.
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Welcome to the Forum. If that nickel is original, it is just about the best condition nickel 32 Winchester I have seen and should command more than stated above. I call that a $600 revolver. First, the factory made lots more 38 M&Ps than 32 M&P. Second, nickel does not hold up that well and yours has hardly been used.
BTW, 66,XXX shipped in 1916
Standard Catalog of S&W, 4th states a 32 Winchester in Excellent condition is worth $700 and I cannot find any bare metal at all in your pictures. In order for a revolver of that era to be in excellent condition it would have to be 95% nickel and I think it is higher than that. If re-nickeled, half that or lower. Difficult to tell a quality re-plate from original with only snapshots.
The revolver also has the correct gold washed medallion service stocks and they are in great shape. If you paid under $600, you got a good deal.
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10-15-2018, 07:32 PM
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Thank you for the info. I dont believe it has ever been renickled, as there is no loss of lettering on barrel, or S&W stamp. I could be wrong, but its mighty sharp still. I actually got it in a trade from a older gentleman who said his grandfather had it. I had a C96 Mauser he wanted really bad, so this was included in the deal. I will say it had cosmoline or a heavy packing grease in it, and the cylinder was stuck tight. I put it a ultrasonic cleaner for 45 mins and it started cleaning up great. Thanks again for the responses.
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10-15-2018, 07:37 PM
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Welcome also! I would agree with Gary's value estimate, especially if the bore and chambers are clean and unpitted. Most of these show damage from firing with black powder, corrosive primers and inadequate cleaning. Enjoy!
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A couple of additional .32-20 dates: 619xx - 2/16; 686xx - 4/16. In any event, yours very likely shipped in 1915 or 1916.
Note that the .32-20 K-frames have their own separate serial number range, going up to about 145000 in the late 1920s when production stopped. I would say yours might be priced in the $400-500 range at a gun show. Is there a letter B before the SN stamped on the barrel flat?
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10-15-2018, 09:53 PM
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No just the serial.
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10-16-2018, 08:46 AM
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Very nice gun!! difficult to find original nickel still in that good of shape. As stated earlier more corrosive loadings were used back then and if not immediately cleaned up it would attack the nickel finish. Should be a fun shooter for you and with the 6 inch barrel it should be pretty accurate too. Seems like a buyers market right now so I have been buying up all the prewar revolvers I can find that are still in nice shape and original. They do not make them like that anymore and S&W does not make nickel at all. Enjoy
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I have no doubt whatsoever that the nickel is original.
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