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I want to thank you all for your kind words about this piece of ordnance.
Here are the best pics we could arrange, short of going to a pro photo studio.
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Enjoy, regards, Ray


Thanks again and forgive me for taking so much space in the forum but I think these pics are worth showing, regards, Ray
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The rifling looks real good!
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Everything looks real good!

Thank you for sharing.

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So far everything matches, very nice.

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Very good photos.

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Ray, I would bet there are a lot of envious readers of this forum regarding this revolver. I know I am envious.

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Love those matching numbers, original finish, and M1917 Inspector's markings. (For your own interest you could verify the same s/n on the backside of the star extractor and on the rear facing flat of the yoke as looking through an empty chamber)

Wow, just stinkin' wow. I don't know what else to say. We just don't see the M1937 examples in that nice of condition here very often......if ever.

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Thanks, beautiful revolver.
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So is the end of the ejector rod left in the white or is that from wear? It looks like it was meant to be that way.... Eh?
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Thanks for sharing this marvelous revolver with us, Ray!! Wonderful condition. Best I’ve ever seen!!

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So is the end of the ejector rod left in the white or is that from wear? It looks like it was meant to be that way.... Eh?
It is left "in the white" from the factory. It is one of the characteristics you look for when determining if the finish may be original. Many times it will get blued during a refinish done by someone other than S&W.

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That is a special revolver, thanx for sharing and for the xtra effort with the pics.......
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Just got in from church. Big long meeting. Wonderful results. Walk in here and turn on the computer and find this beautiful revolver! You are most fortunate! What a joy to see such a beautiful Smith and Wesson! Thank you for sharing! A real joy! Sincerely. bruce.
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Ray......That's likely one of the best ones in captivity. Very nice!
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Thanks pals it will be well cared for!
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We like people to take up space with pictures like that!
I don't know if anyone mentioned when it was made, but a popular websites says:
"The year of manufacture is March 1919."

I believe that the parts were made in 1919, but since the war was over, the parts may not have been assembled into a finished product until 1946.
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Beautiful! This gun is from the 1946 contract, correct?
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Yeah 1946, second batch of the brazilian contract.
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Out standing condition. That gun is only 56 numbers from my 1946 Bazillion, 170729, but far and above in condition. Mine has good shooting qualities, but the outside is the dull parkerized type finish and has sufficient number of little dings to indicate it wasn't handled delicately.
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So that is what they looked like before they got handed out, used and abused, then gathered up, dumped together and shipped back to the USA.
I have had 3 Brazilians and none of them were anywhere close to that condition. One is now a carbine, another is a 45 colt and the third is still stock.
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That’s by far the nicest Brazilian I’ve seen, and I’ve seen about a bra-zillion of them! It has just enough wear that you can enjoy shooting it totally guilt-free, but is nice enough to impress every other kid in the neighborhood. Thanks for sharing.

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Thanks for the likes, folks. Missing are the box pics, which I now show to you.
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Oh, No!!! He's got the box too!!!

Just kidding, Ray, that is indeed the icing on the cake!!! This is the finest Brazillian that any of us have ever seen, and with the box and tools...WOW!!!

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I never knew these guns were shipped here with its individual boxes, till I saw this one. This specimen, since it´s a 46 delivery, missed the war and I suppose were only used here by military personell doing guard duty and shot very little. On the contrary the 37 guns went to Italy with the Brazilian Expeditionary Forces and many show signs of hard use.I guess most of 17´s exported back to the US are from the 37 batch.
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Bravo! An outstanding revolver and excellent photos. Thank you for sharing.
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That sure outshines the old thing I have. What a beautiful revolver!
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Yep that's in very rare condition for a Brazilian. Nicest I've ever seen as well.


SOME NOTES ON THE MODEL 1917 ARMY BRAZILIAN CONTRACTS (1937 & 1946)

In 1937 S&W made some 25,000 of the Model 1917 Army under contract for Brazil, most in serial range 181983-207043 with exceptions as usual that have serial #s far out of this range, most using the post WW I 1930’s produced flat top frame with sq notch rear sight (as did all N frames since the 1926/1927 time frame with no model name changes to differentiate), and these are stamped “MADE IN U.S.A.” on right frame side with the S&W trademark on left side of frame. They also have a Brazilian Crest on the side plate dated 1937. These first Brazilian 1917 ARMY contract had 1930s commercial checkered grips with flat chrome plated medallions. Many Brazilians can be found with the import mark of the importer that brought them back to the USA. One common importer stamp is "IA CO SAC CA" (International Arms Company, Sacramento, California) but stamps of other big importers of surplus arms can be observed as well.

The 2nd contract Model 1917 Army Brazilian run was in 1946 of about 11,800, most using surplus WW I produced frames in the 166,000 – 175,150 range with many exceptions as usual that have serial #s far out of this range, most with older pre 1926/1927 style round top strap and small U notch rear sight. This is why most 1946 Brazilians do not have post war sliding bar safeties and likely not side plate safeties, but may have cyl hold open detents. Use caution if you remove the yoke.
Some were the newer flat top frames generally in the 207,196 – 209,878 range, with a few round tops also reported in that range. These '46 contract guns had WW I surplus 1917 smooth grips. These guns are also stamped “MADE IN U.S.A.”. However, the butt serial #s read with barrel to the left like all post war hand ejectors, and is the easiest way to know which contract the gun was built for.
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Mine also doesn´t have Smith & Wesson marked on the right side of the barrel, and I was informed elsewhere that this is a military contract barrel.Right or wrong, this is as I´ve been told.As to when all this was put together I think I´ll never know for sure!
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On the contrary the 37 guns went to Italy with the Brazilian Expeditionary Forces and many show signs of hard use…
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Is the holster used by the British Expeditionary Forces in Italy known?

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The 2nd contract Model 1917 Army Brazilian run was in 1946 of about 11,800, most using surplus WW I produced frames in the 166,000 – 175,150 range with many exceptions as usual that have serial #s far out of this range, most with older pre 1926/1927 style round top strap and small U notch rear sight. This is why most 1946 Brazilians do not have post war sliding bar safeties and likely not side plate safeties, but may have cyl hold open detents. Use caution if you remove the yoke.
Some were the newer flat top frames generally in the 207,196 – 209,878 range, with a few round tops also reported in that range. These '46 contract guns had WW I surplus 1917 smooth grips. These guns are also stamped “MADE IN U.S.A.”. However, the butt serial #s read with barrel to the left like all post war hand ejectors, and is the easiest way to know which contract the gun was built for.
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You keep saying that, but I've never seen or heard of a flat top Brazilian shipped in the 46 batch. Can you point me to a letter or ship date that proves a flat top shipped in the 46 batch?
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It's a nice piece. I had a similar Model 1937 that I bought at a gun show in Dallas Market Hall around 1989. The dealer told me he bought a barrel containing hundreds of them packed in grease. Mine had no finish, the same grips as yours but beat up pretty good. It was very accurate with handloaded 45 ACP 230 grain FMJ's over Bullseye.

Traded mine to a friend for a new Thompson M1911. Big mistake. Hang onto yours, it is the best one that is possible I think. Bet it's a great shooter!
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There was an article about the BEF in a recent American Rifleman.

My 1937 is in the 200xxx range and is one that was parkerized. Looks good for that, but obviously the original revolver from this thread in 2019 is AMAZING.


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