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So, I had to move my affections to a Colt Model 1917 that is a bit shabby. It proved to also be a fun hiking and shooting companion. The Smith & Wesson Model 1917 has been restricted to range duty ever since.
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Is it early enough that it has charge holes instead of chambers and won't chamber ACP w/o the moon clips?
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… So, I had to move my affections to a Colt Model 1917 that is a bit shabby. …
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I believe the Colt 1917s started life a bit shabby and their appearance went downhill from there. I can't tell from the photo but I would hazard a guess that the Colt shows a lot more tool marks whereas the S&W is much better polished / finished, like it was made for the commercial market.
Colt had a long history of supplying handguns to the US military and knew that they wanted something rugged and functional that was destined to be carried in a holster through an extremely rough environment. No matter how it started out, they knew it would look pretty bad in short order. I don't know if S&W ever really understood that.
As for leftover parts, the US had contracted for large quantities of spare parts. After WWI ended, they forced S&W to take these back. A lot of this inventory sat around in a warehouse until 1946.
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You're right there Jack Flash. Even pristine, the Colt Model 1917s' exterior surface finish looks like something I tried to polish, heh!
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02-12-2020, 03:32 AM
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To me your Colt is not at all that bad.
I have seen a few Colt 1917s that literally look like they just came out of the milling machine! The milling cuts are so pronounced you can actually file your finger nails on them; no leveling, finishing or polishing whatsoever. Just dunked in a bluing vat and shipped out the door!
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In the earlier discussion, it was said that the return of the Brazilian Contract guns was a rough trip. Mine came back after being lovingly hand packed in the finest of barbed wire! There were a thousand tiny and very fine scratches. That was in the early 1980's. Now the patina has reclaimed the scratches and it looks like a nicely worn gun! For years I carried it in a nylon soft holster, through the woods. I found Brownelle's 100 packs of full moon clips. I keep about 100 to 125 full moon clips loaded with my 45 ACP cast target load. I go plinking and all is right in the world! I also have 4 full moons loaded with my SD ammo. for a non-plinking walk, one in the chamber and three in a field jacket pocket. I can tell you that the thread about "Is 38 Special good enough for dogs?" would have been much shorter if it was about 45ACP revolvers. Pretty much Bang, Bang, and sometimes Bang, and there is no problem. The packs of wild dogs on dad's first farm became almost nonexistent in the mid to late 80's. But there were times in usually late June I stayed out of the woods because of the smell!
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Sears doesn’t manufacture anything and certainly sells its share of Chinese-made goods, so I’ll take my chances.
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Sears doesn’t manufacture anything and certainly sells its share of Chinese-made goods, so I’ll take my chances.
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But, they're an American corporation and sell a lot of American made products or did.
Where would you like your money to go? I'm definately not a global economy person!
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Well, went out on a limb and bought this. Maybe I should start a thread?
Yes, I know it’s got a commercial sideplate, I’m guessing some of you would have given a big pass on it.
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Other side ...
Lanyard is marked April 1917
Serial puts it at August 1918
Bottom of grips are stamped F.A. 33/38, and they fit frame absolutely perfect.
(Field Artillery Regiment 33 ceased to exist after 1918)
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Welcome to the Forum, Rurallife.
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Well, went out on a limb and bought this. Maybe I should start a thread?
Yes, I know it’s got a commercial sideplate, I’m guessing some of you would have given a big pass on it.
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Welcome to the Forum!
A lot of us here like the 1917, so please show us more.
I have been known to make a home for a lot of them over time.
Yes, starting a thread will likely be best.
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Ok, I'll try to get er done by the end of the weekend. Thanks folks!
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Well, went out on a limb and bought this. Maybe I should start a thread?
Yes, I know it’s got a commercial sideplate, I’m guessing some of you would have given a big pass on it.
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Don't feel bad. There are a number of us, including me, on this forum who have built Frankensmiths out of spare parts. I have rebuilt two M13s, two 1917s and turned a .38/44 Outdoorsman into a faux M27. Several had to have side plates installed.
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Is it early enough that it has charge holes instead of chambers and won't chamber ACP w/o the moon clips?
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Didn't see your query earlier Hondo44. Nope. It's not an early one. The Model 1917 Colt here was produced in September of 1918.
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