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Old 01-21-2020, 05:29 PM
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I just picked this one up--all matching and near mint.
I always think of Dragnet and Highway Patrol when I see these!


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Probably from the late 1940s-early 1950s, given the hammer and front sight style. I love the M&P snubbies.
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Joe Friday bringing in the bad guys. My favorite show when I was a kid.
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I just picked this one up--all matching and near mint.


September 1950 ship date.
It has a C prefix serial number, I'm sure.
Here is the contrasting configuration DWalt was referring to. This one is a high S prefix gun and it shipped three years to the month before yours (September, 1947). Note the long action hammer and the "figure 8" thumbpiece.
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The k frame snubs with the half moon front sight just have the right look.



Paired with vintage leather make them even better!

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I always think of Dragnet and Highway Patrol when I see these!


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I think the chief deputy on, Sheriff of Cochise carried one, too.
Anyone recall?

The Sheriff wore a Model 10 or pre-10, sometimes in a shoulder holster. Had a five-inch barrel and stag grips.
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A lot of the veteran dicks carried these in crossdraw holsters. They wore London Fog raincoats or long wool coats, and fedoras on their heads. I’ve heard a lot of great tales from those guys. Just paying attention to them was very valuable training. And maybe saved my hide a few times. I know of a couple of bad guys that faced those snubs loaded with 158 grain round nose bullets. That was their last vision.
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Here is mine from December 1949. If I ever spot one of the scarce round butt versions, or better yet one with the long action and round butt I will be hard pressed not to acquire it.
I think I have a Lewis crossdraw holster around here for it.
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BlackAgnes, I got one in equally beautiful condition from one of our members last year that is identical. All parts and numbers match. Was hoping for my birth month - September 1950. Mine was four weeks early, August 1950.
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Beautiful example. Obviously it wasn’t carried much
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Very nice!

Here's my Model 10 snubnose.
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A lot of the veteran dicks carried these in crossdraw holsters. They wore London Fog raincoats or long wool coats, and fedoras on their heads. I’ve heard a lot of great tales from those guys. Just paying attention to them was very valuable training. And maybe saved my hide a few times. I know of a couple of bad guys that faced those snubs loaded with 158 grain round nose bullets. That was their last vision.
Didn’t a lot of old-timers carry those 200 grain Super-Police loads. They were inherently unstable and key-holed causing really bad wounds? That is what my dad always carried in his Chiefs Special.
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Didn’t a lot of old-timers carry those 180 grain Super-Police loads. They were inherently unstable and key-holed causing really bad wounds? That is what my dad always carried in his Chiefs Special.
My Dad carried Super Vels when they became available as did I. But the departments we both worked for issued 158 grain round nose ammo. And there were not as many choices as we have today. The detectives I knew from the 60’s carried snubs. And I don’t recall them carrying any spare rounds. One detective I knew in the 70’s carried a 29-2. At various times in my career I carried a 4 inch Model 10, replaced by a 59. As a detective I carried a 36, the 59, or a 2 1/2 inch 19 depending on the assignment.
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Excuse me, I meant 200 grain super police .38 Special like these.
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This type of snubby was also used in Harrison Ford's 1985 "Witness".

Unsure why director used a much older gun given the film was based around the present day, I.E. 1985.
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In ‘74 I was one of the youngest detectives in our squad and was carrying my issued Colt DS w/one reload when I, along w/two uniformed cops, got into a gunfight w/armed robbery suspects. I exhausted all twelve rounds before we put down all three suspects. If anyone knows the whereabouts of that Colt, serial #689642, please send me a PM.
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I bet this experience made a young cop feel like an old cop right quick!
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BlackAgnes, I got one in equally beautiful condition from one of our members last year that is identical. All parts and numbers match. Was hoping for my birth month - September 1950. Mine was four weeks early, August 1950.
Want to trade? I like mine a lot.
When you get that Snubbie September 1950, Please buy 2, and I’ll give you a nice profit for the favor. LOL

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Excuse me, I meant 200 grain super police .38 Special like these.
Those are cool but I don’t know anything about them. It’s interesting today that rounds that were once labeled “Police Only” are pretty mild in comparison to what we can all buy at just about anyplace but Dick’s or WalMart.
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This type of snubby was also used in Harrison Ford's 1985 "Witness".

Unsure why director used a much older gun given the film was based around the present day, I.E. 1985.
Old cops mostly don’t like change. If Ford’s character became a cop in the 70’s, he very well could be carrying the same gun he got when he hit plainclothes. And the movie-viewing public recognized that snub as a “detective gun” in 1985. My best guess.
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Mine too. A 2" K-frame snub is one thing I don't have. I have a very nice Rossi 971 snub, but it still isn't a S&W.

A 2" M65 would be about perfect. A 2" M10 or M64 would be about the next best thing.
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Mine's a round butt from '51:
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I don’t recall what Broderick Crawford carried, but I have a small bit of history with him!

In September of 1967, he had car accident and was injured in the village where I live, a few blocks from my house. About a year or so later, when I was a young town cop, I stopped him for speeding in an adjacent village. He was known to be a heavy drinker, but I saw no evidence of that when I interviewed him.

He is buried with his mother in Johnstown, NY. I never knew what his Central New York connection was, but he was in the Syracuse area occasionally.

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These days, I would probably take a “selfie” with him, but I never thought to even ask him for an autograph!
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Here is mine it now does duty as my wifes door greeter.
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S prefix I picked up a couple months ago.
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Here is my 10-5. It was the issue to plain cloths cops on Boise PD back
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Here's my 10-5, it was issued to me by me back in the 70's.
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I’ve posted this elsewhere... it’s a 10-5 that came to me in mostly stock form as boot in a trade for a lightweight 45 Gov’t Model I had built. This was about 30 years ago and my dad liked it, so since he had just gotten his CCP (@ age 65 or so) a gunsmith friend and I put a bobbed hammer on it, slicked up the action, and found an original set of Magnas and a Tyler T-grip to finish the package. Although he had it many years, I don’t think he fired it more than a couple of times (if at all) and AFAIK never carried it concealed. After Dad passed away I gave it to my brother who had me return it to plain stock and then probably put it in his night stand. Can you say “long and checkered past?”

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PS An interesting side note ~ it came to me with a set of square butt smooth finger groove combats that went on to become my favorite grip style for the next 20+ years!
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I've always liked the snubbies, 3 screw, 4 screw and 5 screw.
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Here's mine from April 1949:



Love all the K frame snubbies.... but as someone posted above, the Detective Special would have made a good choice for a 6 round snubby.

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My very first CCW was a 2" M10 RB circa 1978/79. When I wanted to go to a smaller J Frame platform I foolishly sold the M10. Should have just kept it - but back then what the heck did I know......
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I don't have an M&P or Model 10 snubby, but a couple of my vintage favorites (a la Dragnet and Highway Patrol) are this Model 15-2 ('62) and a Colt Detective Special ('52). Both are fun to shoot and surprising accurate. Besides, they're just plain cool!
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Here is my 10-5. It was the issue of to plain cloths cops on Boise PD back
in the 70s.

Were those gorgeous stags and the folder issue as well? I’m guessing you were/are serious enough to “upgrade” your basic equipment. Thanks to you and all the others posting here about your past service for that service... LEOs on this board have been the finest in their respective cites, towns and counties for decades and don’t get the thanks and praise you all deserve.

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Did someone say snubbies !
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BlackAgnes,
Your M&P is much nicer than mine and is a real beauty. Mine was used but not abused. As said above, all snubbies are cool, but the half round front sights really lights my fire.
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A genuine original Victory snubby would be extremely desirable. Aside from the Victories, the more valuable S&W M&P snubbies are those few made prior to WWII. The next most desirable ones would be the post-war long action M&P snubbies in the S-series (such as pictured in #46 above).

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I remember that episode of Dragnet. Sgt. Friday went to the laundromat to buy a pack of Lucky Strikes, and surprised a pair of low lifes, messing with a coin changing machine. When one of them fired at Sgt. Friday, he returned fire. I don’t think he made it to the hospital.

During the Internal Investigation, they could not find the slug that was fired at Joe. He was in big trouble. Joe went back to the laundromat the next day and found that the bullet had slid along the bottom of a shelf, and lifted it just enough, to allow the shelf to cover the hole in the wall. The Investigator remembered seeing a black streak along the bottom of the shelf, but assumed it was a pencil mark, make by the carpenter. Never assume anything.

I did not watch Dragnet very often. I think I was too young. But for some reason, I remember that episode.
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I remember watching reruns of Dragnet 1967 long ago when I was working my first job and had a 4:00 PM to midnight shift. Nick at Night played IIRC 2 episodes every week night airing about 1:00 AM so it was a favorite. I am like IndyNick and well remember the episode with Friday shooting the criminal at the laundrymat. In many ways my favorite character was Gannon for the humor he had such as bringing his lunch in a tackle box with various foods in the compartments. Friday finds a fish hook mixed in the slot with the carrots and Gannon says that was good and it would have been bad if it was mixed with the celery.
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Were those gorgeous stags and the folder issue as well? I’m guessing you were/are serious enough to “upgrade” your basic equipment. Thanks to you and all the others posting here about your past service for that service... LEOs on this board have been the finest in their respective cites, towns and counties for decades and don’t get the thanks and praise you all deserve.

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No, I added the stags and knife on my own.
Here is the 10-5 with the grips that came with it.
The 10-6 on the right was the issue revolver for
those in uniform.
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