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Old 02-25-2020, 05:21 PM
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S&W 44 Hand Ejector with screw on barrel adapter to shoot shot shells. I bought this gun in a pawn shop in South Texas and the story I got was a rancher had the gun sent back to S&W to modify so he could shot shot shells to kill rattlesnakes on the King Ranch. The gun does have a star on the butt so it did get returned to factory and was re-nickled also. Looking to see if anyone might have any info on the modifications. Thanks
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Old 02-25-2020, 05:26 PM
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You've got to give use some photos or there is no way anyone will be able to answer your questions.
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Welcome to the forum.

Wow, what a find!

Those factory modified like yours that I've seen have a smooth bore, no rifling. Have you checked the bore?

As I recall, the 'adapter' is a form of a choke.

You should get an Authentication letter and then F/U with a request for documentation from the SWHF for the work done when returned to the factory.

Also do a search on this forum for threads about these special TLs.
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Wow! I would like to see that one! Being a descendent of a ranch family whose family ranch was in San Diego, TX, near the King Ranch, I could ge real excited. Please, please post photos!
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I can’t remember what I had for lunch, but remember this thread—

Congressman Cecil King's .44 Military Smoothbore - more pics + 1
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That's one I was recalling and here's another:

Smooth bore .44 special
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Welcome to the Forum.

Please post pictures ASAP.
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There was an old gunsmith in Joplin that used to specialize in shot shell conversions

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Isn't there still some kind of law against smooth bore handguns? GCA68?
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Old 02-26-2020, 12:39 PM
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Isn't there still some kind of law against smooth bore handguns? GCA68?
I think they would be treated the same as sawed off shotguns. The 45/410 monsters that Taurus and S&W offer today have some rifling in their barrels, although I've read that it's pretty shallow or very slow twist (or maybe both) so as not to mess up a shot column too much.
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As far as I know smooth bore handguns are a no go with the feds. The old Marble Gamegetters with smooth 44-40 bores are not legal. You may be able to get it on the curio and relic list by sending it them for examination.
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Old 02-26-2020, 02:28 PM
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As far as I know smooth bore handguns are a no go with the feds. The old Marble Gamegetters with smooth 44-40 bores are not legal. You may be able to get it on the curio and relic list by sending it them for examination.
An item can qualify as C&R base simply on being 50+ years old, but that doesn't avoid the NFA rules. I'd guess the Gamegetters are all that old, and so are C&R, but I don't know what if anything an owner can do to make 'em legal to own and transfer.
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Any smooth bore handgun is NOT legal and if it is not already registered with the BATF it can not be made legal. It is a short barreled shotgun. No, I do not agree, but that is the ruling. George Nonte use to write about special loads for a 1917 for shotshells and he made a choke that slipped over the front sight. Said he could kill squirrels with it. I once saw a British top break that had the rifling removed, with some choke left at the muzzle. It worked, but was not legal.
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If it is smoothbore, definitely get a factory letter. If it letters as smoothbore, send a copy to BATF Technical Branch with a request to reclassify it as non-NFA. They may ask that you submit the gun to them. If it doesn't letter, don't let BATF know you have it. A shotshell attachment may complicate matters.

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I am hardly an expert but I was under the impression that some handguns were built with straight rifling just to get around the NFA issue.
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No pictures of OP gun yet. You don't think he got scared with all of the legal discussion here ?
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No pictures of OP gun yet. You don't think he got scared with all of the legal discussion here ?

Yet another one-post wonder, providing no pictures and just enough scant detail to generate guesswork by the real Forum members. Then not even so much as a thank you.
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