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Old 03-24-2020, 04:01 PM
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Could anyone share a photo? If I can't locate one I will probably try to create my own as one of several projects to keep busy over the next few weeks. Thanks.
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How about just a picture of a 1938/39 box? ...6 1/2 inch preferably.
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I think the reason you are not getting much response is because #1 they are pretty rare pieces of cardboard and #2 when guys hear somebody is going to make something as a reproduction they instantly think the person may have bad intentions of trying to sell and pass off as the real deal. I been waiting to see a 22/32 pre warbox picture too. I searched the internet and looks like they are just the same maroon pre war box M&P's came in but the label on end says 22/32. I will try to post a screenshot of images I found online. Trying to help you out here hope it works. The first picture may be a case with the top that opens like a hinge with the cloth seam the other looks just like a 2 piece maroon pre war box.
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I think the reason you are not getting much response is because #1 they are pretty rare pieces of cardboard and #2 when guys hear somebody is going to make something as a reproduction they instantly think the person may have bad intentions of trying to sell and pass off as the real deal. I been waiting to see a 22/32 pre warbox picture too. I searched the internet and looks like they are just the same maroon pre war box M&P's came in but the label on end says 22/32. I will try to post a screenshot of images I found online. Trying to help you out here hope it works. The first picture may be a case with the top that opens like a hinge with the cloth seam the other looks just like a 2 piece maroon pre war box.
Seriously, I would never have thought that would be the reaction. You guys really want to police a person's ability to make a copy of something for himself? How about photocopies of S&W documents, just in case I want to sell them as actual documents? Should I get rid of my photocopier?

In any case, thanks for your help.

Edited to add: I bet this thread gets some responses now. In any case I'm unsubscribing from this thread, so if anyone wants to give me a virtual beating for my response, you can do it among yourselves.

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I am so sorry, I did not mean to offend you. I was just throwing out my thoughts as to why nobody has been responding. Absolutely no accusation towards you sepecifically. I apologize profusely for having offend you, it was not my intentions at all.
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I have .22/32 Target 533038 and its box. Both are in decent shape. The gun was shipped in 1940 and from its serial number is clearly one of the last prewar .22/32s.

The link below isn't helpful because of the missing pictures, but several years ago I posted this revolver on the forum. Photobucket killed the links and lost the uploaded photos during a server swap around five years ago. At least this indicates that the desired images once existed.

For variety, an I-22 thread... (see post No. 17)

If I can find the memory card from the camera that took the photos, I will re-post them. It is probably still in the camera, which went missing some time ago. So this may not be a successful hunt.
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You guys really want to police a person's ability to make a copy of something for himself?



Edited to add: I bet this thread gets some responses now. In any case I'm unsubscribing from this thread, so if anyone wants to give me a virtual beating for my response, you can do it among yourselves.
You jump to conclusions way to quickly.
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For those of you who are still around, I will share a mid-1920s into the 1930s box I picked up from Roy Jinks not long ago. The original owner makes me certain that it was not a reproduction. Looks like there were three potential styles of boxes from WWI to WWII are now covered in this thread. daddio202 shows a pre-mid 1920s hinged box and a post-mid 1920s clam-shell box. David linked a mid to late 1930s style riveted box for a Kit Gun, but his images in the first post are not viewable to see his box. That era is a little uncertain as to which style box was used for the HFTs. The clam-shell box is also suggested for the HFT during the same era. Maybe both were found.

My box has no serial number on the bottom and may have never held a revolver. The clam-shell or patent box, as they were called, started out in the mid-1920s and probably ran up the late 1930s. Yes, they were K-frame boxes, labeled inside and out as 22-32.

Now all I have to do is find a mid to late 1920s Fine condition HFT to put in the box, but no luck yet. My well used period correct example will have to suffice for now.

So to steal a couple of images, daddio202 showed a box made from the teens to the mid-1920s, a couple shots of my mid-1920s to maybe WWII, and a post in David's thread shows a late-1930s Kit Gun box sometimes suggested as a HFT box for the mid-1930s to WWII as well. This was also a K frame box, same as what what was used for the K22 Outdoorsman.
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No photo, but this description from Jinks' March 24, 1998 letter on #444707, shipped March 8, 1927:

"It is difficult to provide an answer on the box." (He doesn't say why, perhaps because more than one style/color was or could have been in use at the time. I swear it came to me in a green box, but when I went looking for it (in 1998), I couldn't find any box----an overactive imagination maybe-----or some bad beans.) Continuing: "Generally this revolver at this time frame would be in a maroon colored box, hinged top, cut away bottom and have a green label. The inside of the cover would have the instruction for function in both English and Spanish."

As an aside, for those interested in values, this revolver (in as new condition) sold at auction recently for approximately $1,260.

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. . . "It is difficult to provide an answer on the box." (He doesn't say why, perhaps because more than one style/color was or could have been in use at the time . . . "Generally this revolver at this time frame would be in a maroon colored box, hinged top, cut away bottom and have a green label. The inside of the cover would have the instruction for function in both English and Spanish." . . . Ralph Tremaine
Roy is is most certainly correct, since in the mid-1920s there was a transition between the hinged box and the patent box. No one knows when the hinged boxes were all used up, but the patent box/clam-shell box that seems to be most common predominated the examples found from around 1926 on. A similar transition period took place in the mid-1930s and WWII with the red riveted boxes.
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